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    Posted: March 03 2021 at 15:18
I love Benefit; They were a very different band making that lp from the band that made Aqualung; not just line-up.. Aqualung is a much more sophisticated lp but Benefit is not a lesser album for that.. it has a simpler, rougher edged, more direct vibe and is a natural staging point between Stand up and Aqualung and feels similar to Family's 'Song for me' lp which came out the same year, a real rough diamond.

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Teacher and Witches promise are two 1970 classics
All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Tancos Tancos wrote:

Stand Up is my favorite Tull, but I've listened to Benefit a lot over the years as well. After Cornick and Bunker were gone, I lost interest in the band.
Same here, very different band after those two were gone.
I would agree that losing Cornick for Aqualung was tragic. Just listen to what Cornick brings to "My God" on the 1970 Isle Of Wight concert.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Money Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 01 2021 at 12:06
Originally posted by Tancos Tancos wrote:

Stand Up is my favorite Tull, but I've listened to Benefit a lot over the years as well. After Cornick and Bunker were gone, I lost interest in the band.
Same here, very different band after those two were gone.
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Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ok, after pondering all that was posted here by the Tull heads who love Benefit (and even Father Don Pardo from SOT), I gave Benefit another close listen and determined that it's a good album but it's still no Aqualung. Tongue

Agreed...'Aqualung' is better, ... now that we have settled that......can we agree that TAAB and PP are
 self-indulgent  overated albums...?
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Hmm...overrated? No. Self-indulgent? Absolutely, just like all the other great prog albums. LOL
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PP for sure, but TAAB is just too good
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Ok, after pondering all that was posted here by the Tull heads who love Benefit (and even Father Don Pardo from SOT), I gave Benefit another close listen and determined that it's a good album but it's still no Aqualung. Tongue

Agreed...'Aqualung' is better, ... now that we have settled that......can we agree that TAAB and PP are
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Ok, after pondering all that was posted here by the Tull heads who love Benefit (and even Father Don Pardo from SOT), I gave Benefit another close listen and determined that it's a good album but it's still no Aqualung. Tongue

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?






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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Let me cut to the chase, "Benefit" is my favorite Tull album.  Whenever I hear a song from this album I think of high school.  This is the album that brought me to Jethro Tull and has remained my favorite all of these years.


 To clarify, the original UK album release did not include "Teacher", which was released as a stand alone single in the UK. And this video is not the version included in the US album release as it featured Anderson's flute in the instrumental break and this, the UK single version, does not.

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Stand Up is my favorite Tull, but I've listened to Benefit a lot over the years as well. After Cornick and Bunker were gone, I lost interest in the band.
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Originally posted by dwill123 dwill123 wrote:

Let me cut to the chase, "Benefit" is my favorite Tull album.  Whenever I hear a song from this album I think of high school.  This is the album that brought me to Jethro Tull and has remained my favorite all of these years.



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For those who think Benefit is not that great...well, I was in that camp as a 16 year-old (in 1974) listening to it for the first half a dozen times. I kept listening to it and really, it to me is a masterpiece and actually like it much better than Aqualung and to me it's just as good as Stand Up and even slightly better.

With You There To Help Me  10/10
Nothing To Say 10/10 (The greatest unheralded track in Tull's entire catalogue)
Alive And Well And Living In (UK album) 9/10
Teacher (US album) 10/10
Son 10/10
For Michael Collins; Jeffrey and Me 10/10
To Cry You A Song 9/10
A Time For Everything 8/10
Inside 9/10
Play In Time 8/10
Sossity; You're A Woman 10/10

Hmmm, this makes it my 2nd favourite Tull album with those ratings. Pete Pardo from Sea of Tranquillity actually has Benefit as his favourite Tull album...and I almost agree with him.
Can't believe it is only rated 3.91 currently on PA.

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Let me cut to the chase, "Benefit" is my favorite Tull album.  Whenever I hear a song from this album I think of high school.  This is the album that brought me to Jethro Tull and has remained my favorite all of these years.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote dr wu23 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 28 2021 at 17:48
Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?

Well...I don't really rate many lp's as masterpieces no matter what the band is; people throw that word around too easily imho. I think 'Benefit' deserves over 4 stars here but it is only rated at 3.91. Imho it's better than 'Stand Up' regarding 'musical ideas' (though Stand Up has good songs they are basically blues rock)  Benefit moves forward and some of it 'bleeds into' Aqualung if you listen to it. I have always thought TAAB is one of those overrated (there's that word again) albums. It's only two songs fleshed out into enough material to cover two sides and as many have pointed out was an inside joke by Anderson. It would be very interesting to see what lp's he likes by his own band and what he truly thinks of TAAB compared to the other well liked lp's.


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I've  never thought much of it. It's not bad but always stuck me as kind of ho hum. Maybe I should revisit? 
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Slate me amongst those who rate Benefit quite low. Probably my least favourite of the 1960s-1970s albums. I actually choose to listen to This Was more often than Benefit, and Stand Up seems like the much better realisation of that version of the band. 
Not sure why it doesn't grab me, but it just doesn't.  

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A very good Tull album sandwiched between two great albums, Stand Up and Aqualung. Some of the songs from that era are even better than what was on the album, like Witch's Promise and Sweet Dream. 
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Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Is it safe to say that you would put it the masterpiece or near masterpiece class?






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