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    Posted: October 27 2020 at 03:08
Two rare 1970's videos of the transitional line-up of Renaissance, featuring Binky Cullom on vocals!
 
 


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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

I actually prefer "The Other Woman" to the contemporaneous Renaissance album "Tuscany".  At least a few of the songs had some oomph to them, and, as I've said before elsewhere, the closing cut "Somewhere west of here" might be the best post Camera Camera, pre Grandine Il Vento Renaissance song, and is a slam dunk for Illusion fans.  Unfortunately it's not on youtube!
 
I like "The Other Woman" album and I have it on CD, but I'd much rather listen to Annie Haslam on "Tuscany" anytime.Smile


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2020 at 18:52
I actually prefer "The Other Woman" to the contemporaneous Renaissance album "Tuscany".  At least a few of the songs had some oomph to them, and, as I've said before elsewhere, the closing cut "Somewhere west of here" might be the best post Camera Camera, pre Grandine Il Vento Renaissance song, and is a slam dunk for Illusion fans.  Unfortunately it's not on youtube!






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Smart move. Wish I'd thought of that.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Same here. Time Line was so disappointing after Camera Camera. Btw, l think RogerThat reviewed the Adington albums. But l never wanted to read them which is a shame as he's an excellent reviewer and super knowledgeable on all types of music.
I actually took Renaissance' Time-Line album back to the record store and asked for my money back. Smile
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2020 at 15:42
Same here. Time Line was so disappointing after Camera Camera. Btw, l think RogerThat reviewed the Adington albums. But l never wanted to read them which is a shame as he's an excellent reviewer and super knowledgeable on all types of music.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

I haven't listened to that in a long time. I forgot how pedestrian Adington's voice sounds.
That's true. I'm afraid Stephanie Adlington is no match for Jane Relf or Annie Haslam, although I still went out and bought the album, just on the strength of it being a Renaissance album, but I made a big mistake when I bought the "Time-Lines" album in 1983. Smile


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I haven't listened to that in a long time. I forgot how pedestrian Adington's voice sounds.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote SteveG Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2020 at 14:07
Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Oops it's actually listed under Illusion. I guess the band calling themselves Renaissance/Illusion was confusing. Lol

 
It's even more confusing if you include Michael Dunford's Renaissance too, who released two albums with Stephanie Adlington in the 1990's.
 
Yeah, Annie Haslam was not amused with them.
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Oops it's actually listed under Illusion. I guess the band calling themselves Renaissance/Illusion was confusing. Lol
 
It's even more confusing if you include Michael Dunford's Renaissance too, who released two albums with Stephanie Adlington in the 1990's.
 
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Oops it's actually listed under Illusion. I guess the band calling themselves Renaissance/Illusion was confusing. Lol

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^ Jim McCarty made a really good comeback album in 2001 though with "Through the Fire", released under the name Renaissance Illusion. The opening track sounds like classic Renaissance from the early 1969-71 era.....
 
One More Turn of the Wheel
 
I know, see my review for the album under the album page for James McCarty. I believe l gave it 5 stars.
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^ Jim McCarty made a really good comeback album in 2001 though with "Through the Fire", released under the name Renaissance Illusion. The opening track sounds like classic Renaissance from the early 1969-71 era.....
 
One More Turn of the Wheel
 
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:


Kings & Queens: The opening song from the first Renaissance album, featuring a similar line-up to the later Illusion line-up, only without Keith Relf (1943-1976), who died tragically when he was electrocuted by his electric guitar shortly before he was due to begin recording the first Illusion album.


Sick I never knew that. Awful. So sad. 
This material is way too commerical
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Sadly, that happened back in the days when an electric guitar used to be plugged directly into the mains power supply, but I doubt if it could happen now with modern electric guitars. Confused
 
This is my favourite song from the third Illusion album, Enchanted Caress...
 
The Man Who Loved the Trees
 
 

This material is way too commerical. Even Jim McCarty who wrote the songs was not thrilled with them. What is really remarkable is the old Keith Relf demo included titled All The Fallen Angels.
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Both solid albums , but still like the original Renaissance lp's better.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone.
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Gone Fishing: a rare song from Jane Relf which was featured in an advert for Findus Fish Fingers! Smile
 
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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Kings & Queens: The opening song from the first Renaissance album, featuring a similar line-up to the later Illusion line-up, only without Keith Relf (1943-1976), who died tragically when he was electrocuted by his electric guitar shortly before he was due to begin recording the first Illusion album.

Sick I never knew that. Awful. So sad. 
Sadly, that happened back in the days when an electric guitar used to be plugged directly into the mains power supply, but I doubt if it could happen now with modern electric guitars. Confused
 
This is my favourite song from the third Illusion album, Enchanted Caress...
 
The Man Who Loved the Trees
 
 


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Kings & Queens: The opening song from the first Renaissance album, featuring a similar line-up to the later Illusion line-up, only without Keith Relf (1943-1976), who died tragically when he was electrocuted by his electric guitar shortly before he was due to begin recording the first Illusion album.

Sick I never knew that. Awful. So sad. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 06 2020 at 22:20
Love those two late 1970s albums.  Renaissance Illusion is also very good but without much in the way of Jane - it's more like a Jim McCarty solo album really.  Speaking of which, his "Out of the Dark" is absolutely superb.

As Hugues implied, Renaissance MK II was able to maintain their fairly non commercial sound through most of the 1970s because they had enough of a following, at least until they didn't, while the 2 Illusion albums in the late 1970s were a bit more mainstream, but still great IMO.
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Kings & Queens: The opening song from the first Renaissance album, featuring a similar line-up to the later Illusion line-up, only without Keith Relf (1943-1976), who died tragically when he was electrocuted by his electric guitar shortly before he was due to begin recording the first Illusion album.  
 
 
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