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    Posted: August 27 2020 at 12:37
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

So you actually meant he's the only composer to win 2 Oscars where one is orchestral and one electronic?


John Barry also won five Oscars. Maurice Jarre won three Oscars, and none of them were electronic. Maurice Jarre's last Oscar was for A Passage to India, which is orchestral (1985), his other two were orchestral ones from the 60s (Doctor Zhivago and Lawrence of Arabia). He was nominated for Witness -- don't know if that is the electronic one that Pedro is referring to.

There are a number who, like Jarre, won three Oscars, I don't know how many won two. This is confusing.
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Shes a sweetheart with a geniun appeal and a way of comunicating music and flute playing in a way that is compelling to behold. She also have good sence of humor.
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So you actually meant he's the only composer to win 2 Oscars where one is orchestral and one electronic?

Edited by chopper - August 27 2020 at 12:33
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

make sure you jot down that Maurice Jarre is the only composer to win two Oscars ... one with an orchestra and the other ... done electronically later in his life! 

If you're saying that's a record then it's not, John Williams has 5.

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Nope ... Maurice Jarre created a soundtrack for/with an orchestra and then later created a complete soundtrack electronically, probably on his son's equipment.

It's about "music" and realizing that the instruments are just another something else you can use to get the desired effect and emotion out of it. JW, to my knowledge, is probably an orchestra type guy. I don't see him creating anything on a computer screen, specially as far back as WHEN Maurice Jarre did it! It's a huge accomplishment for any musician!
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

I came across the following two YouTube videos of a classical flutist reacting to Ian Anderson's flute playing. I post them here mainly for fun: 


Well, thanks! These reaction videos were really fun and interesting to watch. Also because they led me to some hilarious reaction videos on Focus's Hocus Pocus (check them out!).
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

make sure you jot down that Maurice Jarre is the only composer to win two Oscars ... one with an orchestra and the other ... done electronically later in his life! 

If you're saying that's a record then it's not, John Williams has 5.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2020 at 07:46
Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

People who down play musical complexity and dynanicism need to be shown other musicians verifying how insane this sh*t is.

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There are some players out there, that are way beyond what music teaches ... one other example, would be Keith Emerson ... imagine a 23 year old going to a professor and show them all the piano parts on the last NICE album or first two ELP albums ... just about every professor would say ... not classical enough, or worse ... when you grow up to create music, let me know!

And rock music, in those days, made a perfect allowance for this freedom. You could say that a lot of it started a good 10 years earlier when the electric guitar also wanted "some freedom" but couldn't ... you can easily remember that bit in the movie ... "I guess they are not ready for that yet!" ... which was turned down, and kept out of the stuff being recorded, specially as the recording straight to a platter in those days was very difficult and expensive and you would not want to waste a platter ... there was no way to edit it! So you had to play straight for a long time!

There are others ... Peter Michael Hamel, became a professor of music, and wrote several books trashing rock music. Eberhard Schoenner started as a classical musician that would rather spend his time with electronics, and later became a well known composer of classical music. Edgar Froese belongs here for his classical training, although from a compositional sense, his electronic music is very much like classical music with different/other themes also playing above or below the current part, and/or going around it. Ryuichi Sakamoto, was better known in the early days for his synthesizer work ... and after so many soundtracks and albums is now one of the better known music composers out there ... All of these started from their "wild side" and became really well seasoned ...

The one family that is different ... Jean Michel Jarre started on electronics, because his famous dad (Maurice Jarre) was already doing classical stuff ... so the kid goes ... hey that ... take a look at this!!! ... and for all of us that think that people don't learn anything in their later years, make sure you jot down that Maurice Jarre is the only composer to win two Oscars ... one with an orchestra and the other ... done electronically later in his life! 

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frenetic Zetetic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2020 at 23:53
People who down play musical complexity and dynanicism need to be shown other musicians verifying how insane this sh*t is.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Spacegod87 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2020 at 20:09
Yeah I watched her videos on Tull a while ago. I don't usually like react videos, but there are exceptions. This is one of them. It was entertaining to watch.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote moshkito Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2020 at 17:14
Hi,

My sister, played with the Santa Barbara Symphony for many years (harp), and even with her musical training, she never really took to a lot of rock music, which she thought, like a lot of her counter parts at the symphony, not musical enough or worth learning.

There was one night at the Hollywood Bowl a while bacl, when a jazz flutist made a certain classical music buffoon look totally silly and an amateur ... and the one thing that having a certain Ian Anderson there that evening, would have made the whole thing even better! But that classical guy was buried senseless ... he couldn't improvise and had to know what key or notes were being played ... whereas someone like the jazz'y guy, had no issues going all over and adding/changing things as he felt.

Ian, did a lot of that in his early days, and it was in the early bootlegs that gave him a lot of the fame he had, not to mention that his shows were a bit on the insane side of things, because he was taking that instrument apart ... something that classical musicians would never really consider!

If, Ian were to perform within a classical context ... he would probably blow out the audiences, with the exception that the orchestra and conductor would want to kill him ... he did not behave and changed things along the way which made it difficult for the other folks to follow!

My sister never took to "rock music" and while we played many things, the only real "favorite" she had was Vangelis, and later Jean Michel Jarre, both which are mostly "classical" when compared to any rock musician. I was trying to get her to do some jazz stuff, but she did not really take to the freedoms that jazz used, or met anyone that could give her a better idea of what to do, but carrying a harp that was twice bigger than she was, is probably not do 'able ... and helped kill it all.

But, yeah ... I would think that Ian is probably one of the great flute players for a very long period of time!

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote I prophesy disaster Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2020 at 12:24
I came across the following two YouTube videos of a classical flutist reacting to Ian Anderson's flute playing. I post them here mainly for fun:
 
 
Classical flutist reacts to Jethro Tull (Tampa Stadium 1976) // I AM SPEECHLESS!
 
 
 
Classical flutist reacts: Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick // POOR FLUTE!
 
 
 
 


Edited by I prophesy disaster - August 25 2020 at 03:04
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