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Poll Question: Which Hawkwind studio album is most underappreciated?
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    Posted: May 25 2024 at 02:32
Astounding Sounds Amazing Music to me, possibly because it was so rare and hard to find for so many years (in the US, at least). So people couldn't find it or get a chance to know it. I consider it stronger than Q,S&C, which has always been readily available.

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Q, S & C.
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Q, S & C
Every Lp from Hall to Q, S & C is a must .
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The first lp? Certainly, but i think it grew in status later, helped by the various 'budget' re-issues of the 70's and early 80's.
Astounding sounds, amazing music? Possibly; At the time, lots of people were disgruntled by Lemmy being sacked, by a change of label (UA to Charisma) and the cloak and dagger antics 'seemingly' going on in the band... not to mention the change in sound! But in more recent years, a lot of people have stated how much they love this lp (me included) and its profile has definitely gone up.
Space Bandits? definitely! A real return to form after the particularly dull Xenon Codex and (as already been said) the run of shows with Bridget Wishart and Simon House were fantastic!

I feel that PXR5 has been completely ignored, mostly due to (at the time) the fact that it was seen as a 'contractual obligation' lp made of bits and pieces.. yes, it had some Dave Brock demoes ('Infinity' is a super song which could have been done so much better, same applies to the title track PXR5) worked up on his farm in Devon plus a couple of odd bits recorded around the Hawklord sessions (Death Trap, Jack of Shadows) and the stunning Live material from the recent tour... without it, we would not have had official versions of 'Uncle Sam's on Mars', 'Robot', and 'Highrise'. The collapse of the band around the time of its release and the dodgy 'wrongly wired' plug cover didnt help its profile.


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Quark Strangeness & Charm - Underrated by some, but overrated by me, strangely. Smile
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Astounding Sounds Amazing Music Smile
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"Hawkwind"
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Looks like I am the only person who voted for 'Warrior on the Edge of Time' . Three of my favourite Hawkwind tracks 'Assault and Battery', 'Magnu' , 'The Demented Man' appear on it- and feel that they get overlooked, but all deserve more attention.
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Astounding Sounds Amazing Music is a really good Hawkwind album I think is underrated
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Interesting thread.  The poll question is underrated.  I am a huge fan of the Calvert era and felt their output declined steadily once he had left.  I went for the debut album in the end (Tim Blake's declared favourite).  To this day, no-one really knows what to make of this equivalent of near free jazz book-ended by two conventional songs (I prefer 'Mirror of Illusion' to 'Hurry on Sundown' any day).  The experiments of Dikmik are astounding - another innovator overlooked once the spaceship took flight.
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This was a pretty tough one.

My close runner-up is 'Astounding Sounds'. It was their current album when I discovered them. I never quite got why this album received so much scorn. Side one is almost completely taken up by 'Reefer Madness' and 'Steppenwolf', both of which are classics. Side Two isn't as strong, but there isn't anything obnnoxious there except maybe 'Aubergine that Ate Rangoon'.  Other than that you have several perfectly decent instrumentals ('Chronoglide Skyway', 'City of Lagoons'), 'Kerb Crawler', which is a crunchy rocker along the lines of the non-album single 'Back on the Streets' (this must have been an awful shock considering 'Warrior on the Edge of time' was only a year earlier, but I had no problem processing the two styles). Dave Brock pokes fun at Turner's 'Kadu Flyer', but it actually has a pretty interesting melody and overalkl I've always liked it.

But I voted for 'In Search of Space'.  It gets continually overshadowed by 'Doremi', which is always cited as the beginning of HW's true Space rock sound. Which is nonsense. ISOS is where it all came together. Sure 'Master of the Universe' and 'You Shouldn't Do That' sounded awesome a year later with Lemmy and Simon King, but had they been on this album it may have sacrificed the atmospheric acoustic vibe of tracks like 'You Know You're Only Dreaming', 'We took the Wrong Step Years Ago' or 'Children of the Sun'



'Quark' is quite probably HW's best album, IMHO, but I don't know that it's badly underrated.

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Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

The correct answer is: Space Bandits, which is almost never brought up. It's the first album to feature, for the first time, a woman on lead vocals, and it was the right move, that voice belonging to Bridget Wishart.






With Wishart's vocals and the melody/chords in this song, the verses at times sound amazingly like Amon Duul II circa 'Wolf City'.

This album also saw the very welcome return of Simon House - who absolutely shreds it with that violin solo around 5:15.  Unfortunately both he and Wishart only lasted for one studio album - but the live VHS of this lineup is worth getting. 'Palace Springs' could have been a great live album if House had been on 'Golden Void' etc.


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Space Bandits is mostly superb. The addition of Bridgett (formerly of the Hippie S.l.a.g.s.) was a great choice.
Samantha Fox also hooked up with the Hawks on occasion.


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I think Hawkwind is very underrated as band at least in PA. Not any their album in top100 album list (instead 10 Italoprog albums that I can´t understand), only album in ratings goes little over 4 is "Warrior", but even that got only 656 ratings. I have given 5 stars to their "In Search Of Space" - "Warrior"-albums, 4 almost all the other. Only boring album of theirs is their latest "All Aboard the Skylark". I may be a fanboy, but I think they really deserved more attention here.
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The correct answer is: Space Bandits, which is almost never brought up. It's the first album to feature, for the first time, a woman on lead vocals, and it was the right move, that voice belonging to Bridget Wishart.
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Evidently I need to do part two (1991-)

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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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It's impossible for me to think which album I like the most ... I can STILL (almost 70) put on Space Ritual full blast on the earphones ... and even on the stereo if it's not midnight to keep all the birds awake!

From this list I would say that HALL OF THE MOUNTAIN GRILL and ASTOUNDING SOUNDS AMAZING MUSIC ... are totally out of this world, and I constantly play "Reefer Madness" and "Steppenwolf" ... because they still make sense today ... and they are so strong.

The later versions are not appreciated as much, but ELECTRIC TEPEE, is BY FAR, one of their most under-rated and un-appreciated album ... in the tradition of "Space Ritual", it is an incredible "assault" on the senses musically and sonically ... but not something I have ever seen anyone else talk about this album. I like, occasionally, to say that it is one of the best "acid rock" albums ever ... in that it is non-stop ... and the ending piece is the one that confuses every rock fan silly ... Hawkwind shows and fests, for many days and nights were all a nice powow for everyone ... and one person that heard this said it was just crap ... I guess it doesn't say much for the GD and their versions of the powow and dance circles for years ... now gone forever ... the single thing that is missing the most at the Eugen Country Fair, that made it so special and great.

Honestly, there are other things in there that deserve credit ... SPACE BANDITS has a lot of nice things, and the material with the Native American is very powerful and deserves mention ... but there is no way that folks here can often appreciate a mixing of cultures and an understanding for each other ... that is missed altogether. It signals the eventual "powow" in ELECTRIC TEPEE ... 

LEVITATION is a very nice album, with excellent production and a different level of drumming, that made Hawkwind sound very different, but it was OK, and some of the material in it is fine, although I kinda thing that it lacks the depth and strength of other material going back to the early days ... I like GB in it, but I think his involvement, forced the band to bring the "songs" down to be more concise and tight, rather than have a flight of fancy and guitar moments ... but it did not exactly make it bad ... I simply do not seem to listen to it as much as the rest of the stuff.

The later Hawkwind, for me did not fare as well ... the revisits with Tim Blake were nice LIVE and such, but he did not stick around, or was not specifically interested in the Hawkwind material. 

All the other albums have at least one or two things worthy of mention and enjoyment, although I probably would like to take 2 of those and make ONE album out of them ... which I might think would help the legacy that WAS/IS Hawkwind, stand up longer and better.

Still a magnificent band and the only thing I would love to see is for Nik Turner and Dave Brock to mend fences and hug each other ... together they helped create a beautiful monster!

I second your opinion on "Electric Teepee"; it is a great album. I also like "The Chronicle of the Black Sword" a lot; I totally fell in love with it when it came out
I have to agree here too !
Business of the Future fares quite highly for me as well. Blood of the Earth is a knockout.
Perhaps their first album is the ‘underrated’ one - my least listened to from the Hawks.

Edited by Tom Ozric - July 17 2020 at 21:41
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