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    Posted: April 25 2020 at 05:49
Originally posted by Davesax1965 Davesax1965 wrote:

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Incidentally, Mr Schultze does not like other musicians contacting him at all and tends to ignore all mail by everyone. I suppose he must get bored of wannabe electronic musicians sending him drivel. ;-)
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Hi,

If any mail is replied to it is done by his friend/agent Klaus Mueller (I think that is his name) and he is rather rude and not well intentioned when it comes to fans and inquiries. A few years back, just before they started putting out the WORKS series on individual CD's that Mueller guy was outright pathetic and rude in his reply.

Since then, though, many of the individual parts of WORKS have been done out on CD ... there is only one issue that some fans might/mightnot get ... it feels like the WORKS series was designed as "improvisation" and it has some outstandingly beautiful things ... that are, one could say, very different, than the usual stuff he does ... the regular stuff he does, and you can see it in his live stuff, is that he has so many things going on at the same time, that he uses the MIXER to bring them back up and down, and his pieces, while still lovely, and quite enjoyable, are way more intricate than the more simplistic material in WORKS ... 

That is my interpretation and some notes do state that a lot of pieces in WORKS are improvised ... and it is pretty obvious that a lot of the regular albums are an over abundance (at times) of stuff coming and going that is really far out to listen to, but makes the music slightly more difficult to enjoy and appreciate if you are one of those folks that likes to flow on one or two things that "grab" you, which all of a sudden is faded out and the whole thing becomes something else.

SIDEBAR: This compares well to Davesax by the way, however, not having a mixer out in the open as visible and changing back and forth between things, is the main difference ... Dave's stuff is nice, but does not have the "depth" (couldn't find another word) in terms of the number of things happening at the same time in KS regular material. Let's say that KS uses 28/30 different lines (or instruments) and Dave is only using half that ... which does not in any way make it less worthy, Dave's is worth the attention, but not in a class like KS would normally be ... and that's understandable ... KS has been at it for at least 60 years, and Dave is working on his Wheaties really well. KS, is probably more "classical music" oriented than Dave is, who seems to be more "electronic" oriented, which might be better for some folks that don't care for the more classical music designs for an orchestra let's say!


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There was a compilation called "Sequencer" which I like very much. Not sure if it's an official release, though. 

It's apparently off Continuum. 

Incidentally, Mr Schultze does not like other musicians contacting him at all and tends to ignore all mail by everyone. I suppose he must get bored of wannabe electronic musicians sending him drivel. ;-)



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Originally posted by Davesax1965 Davesax1965 wrote:

He's just trying to sound like me. ;-)


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Hmmm....Moondawn?
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He's just trying to sound like me. ;-)

"Here's one I prepared earlier". (The modular synth is finally finished. ;-) ) 




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Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

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you have to take the subtitle into account to get into the album: "Eine elektronische Winterlandschaft" ("An electronic winter landscape")

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That's one side of things I have never had the luck to know what some things meant, and just went with the flow of the listen ... heck, I still don't know what some words in AD2 mean ... and the music is still great!

But it does clarify, one side really well ... from the album. 

A very nicely done, and totally beautiful album ... as to others liking or not liking, it depends if they are into the "flow of the music", or if they need lyrics to tell them what it's all about Alfie!
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^I love that one but think it is a little too ambient to start out with...most especially if one is coming from rock music with a beat. At least most of his other 70s album feature some kind of beat whether it’s over drums or sequencers.
As serene and utterly beautiful as Mirage is I still feel it is a somewhat hard sell to the uninitiated...even if I would love to be proven wrong

you have to take the subtitle into account to get into the album: "Eine elektronische Winterlandschaft" ("An electronic winter landscape")


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^I love that one but think it is a little too ambient to start out with...most especially if one is coming from rock music with a beat. At least most of his other 70s album feature some kind of beat whether it’s over drums or sequencers.
As serene and utterly beautiful as Mirage is I still feel it is a somewhat hard sell to the uninitiated...even if I would love to be proven wrong
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Mirage.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2020 at 00:25
My favourites: Mirage, Timewind and Picture Music. I think Timewind is the easiest to start with. After X, I left Schulze aside. Dune was quite a deception.

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thanx guys - now i got homework todoo
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I agree with David for Timewind and X, but for me Audentity (1983) and Angst (1984) can be an option to get easily into KS music.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 20 2020 at 07:37
I’d recommend either Timewind, Moondawn, X or either of the Body Love volumes. All very melodic and easy to approach...for a Schulze album that is.
If you need a bit of beat/drumming, then I’d say Moondawn - just like Force Majeure probably is the easiest way to get into Tangerine Dream
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It's all good until 78 and X (even the Body Love soundtracks), and it really drops after that

But I'd start either chronoligically or first  with my fave Timewind (to make sure you "catch" it) then chronologically

BTW, Schulze was the first to cram in nearly one hour of music on a vinyl.
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Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Timewind, Mirage, X.

Agree! Personally, I do consider "Mirage" as his best work and an excellent starting point. 
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Timewind, Mirage, X.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

okay, started on Timewind now
can’t go wrong with this one. I just spun Timewind earlier this eve. I liked side 2 more.

I started out on Timewind decades ago and dozens of albums and CDs later (including much of the Ultimate Edition), if I had to keep only one, it would be Timewind.
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Hi,

I recommend listening from the start ... since he improves and changes bit by bit each and every album ... grabbing a later album and then going back to listen to CYBORG or something else from those early days, is going to probably sound weird and not as good.

All in all, choosing one album or two from KS ... is a lost cause ... he has so many excellent ones and they go all over the place and right after that ... surprise ... something new.

Sidebar: His Works series is now released on CD and in it there are some fantastic things that are extremely different than his stuff at the time. Much of it seems to be improvised, and I kinda think that it is better than his regular stuff all around.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

okay, started on Timewind now
can’t go wrong with this one. I just spun Timewind earlier this eve. I liked side 2 more.
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okay, started on Timewind now
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