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kenethlevine
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I am voting No for Sume. Just hard pop rock with some folk, psych and prog influences. Not to say I don't like it. Both the first and 3rd album which I listened to are good quality rock, but, like many in that time period, their association to prog was circumstantial. I suspect if they sang in English fewer people would consider it prog.
Re prog related, I think that's not appropriate. By my understanding, that's more for artists from back in the day with more widespread critical or commercial success who had an influence on prog or were prog adjacent. For example, Shawn Phillips was added in the last few years. It could also be applied to the solo works of artists from prog bands who kept some of that prog thing going. I don't see Sume qualifying. |
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^ Nektar was a bunch of English ex-pats who left the UK and moved to Germany where they formed and remained I've suggested changing their nationality to Germany and surprisingly received pushback Although i still think they should be listed under Germany it's not worth the time to pursue really |
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Cristi
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That can be edited, give us the correct information.
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^ we're not so strict here. Even though Nektar never lived in England they are still listed as UK band here.
If they do get added i'm ok with Greenland because that's where they spent their days as a band
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I think the reason some PA Collaborators want to list Sumé as Danish band as opposed to a Greenlandic one might as well be simply not to perpetuate the 'novelty factor'.
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I guess TYR would prefer to be listed as Far Oer instead of Denmark
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BTW Culpepper Orchard’s first album is definitely progressive with time signature deviations but their following albums are pretty much pure folk so if it wasn’t for their debut wouldn’t be here either
Even Sume’s so-called most progressive album isn’t progressive at all |
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^ 70s soundscapes don’t mean progressive
Sume is definitely psychedelic but that is not synonymous with progressive either I’d say advocate for prog related if you’re set on getting them added |
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Sean Trane
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I'm willing to put Sume under Denmark (just like a Faroë band would be), so that's not my driving force. RYM lists them as Danish. Nope, when I hear their later 70'smusic, I hear the typical early 70's soundscapes. I'd even say that I hear something of Culpeper Orchard or BRI or Midnight Sun.
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I dunno. There are so many REAL prog bands that still aren't on this site. Why do we care about bands like Sume? If they weren't from Greenland nobody would even consider them. Sounds like you all just want a band from Greenland so bad you're willing to compromise progginess for novelty. |
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Sean Trane
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^^^ As long as it isn't Greenland bashing
we all male mistakes and indeed SD doesn't belong IMHO sparks as well/ Hell I had Dead Can Dance entered in PA
That's what I was getting at in my previous post
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^green land washing
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siLLy puPPy
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^ well that may be the case but Oingo Boingo and a gazillion other artists shouldn't be here at all As much as i love Steely Dan, Oingo Boingo, Sparks etc, i would purge them in a hearbeat from a prog site if i could :) Sorry i'm just not convinced. Why don't you consider them at prog folk since they are primarily a folk band? |
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Sean Trane
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close enough for comfort, for me. And Ungava was also very much an Inuit/Quebec band You're right that they (Sume) are not a full-blown prog band in that they would fit in RIO/Avant. But I hear much more prog than in Oingo Boingo or a few other acts included If it's an issue, I'll take it to analyze t(hem at Prog Folk
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Nope! I have reviewed an album (actually only have a few Caribbean Islands to go) from every nation and territory on RYM. North Korea it's fairly easy to get the Korean Revolutionary Opera perfromance by Mansudae Art Troupe. For Somalia modern acts like Dur-Dur Band are quite popular in world music crowds. The hardest music to find is from Pacific Islands like Nauru, Tuvulu, Kiribati and Pitcairn Islands. I guess for PA's sake if Sume is added then Greenland would be appropriate since they were all from Greenland going to college in Denmark and then went back. Edited by siLLy puPPy - November 10 2024 at 15:08 |
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Still easier than from North Korea, I guess
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Good luck with finding some from the Pitcairn Islands! I had to contact an artist there and order from her personally because it's impossible to find any samples on line :)
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yam yam
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In October 2014 a documentary based around the band was released called Sumé: Mumisitsinerup nipaa (Sumé: The Sound of a Revolution), directed by Inuk Silis Høegh, and providing a retrospective view of Sumé's rise to fame, thus further solidifying their stature as icons of Greenlandic rock: https://www.thesoundofarevolution.com/. Some clips from the film can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/@thesoundofarevolution8204/videos. Prog or not, there's no doubting the impact that these guys had in Greenland back in those early days. I guess they're just not destined to be granted a place on PA.
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