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    Posted: September 13 2019 at 22:03
Marillion suck lol. Awful 80s hehe
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

You're probably like me. There's a lot of prog bands I struggled to get into at first glance. But I force myself to listen to song after song, and usually I end up liking the band.

Except Marillion...

I don't know why I can't gel with them, but it's not for a lack of trying/

 
Me too. Marillion and IQ just aren't for me. 

I won't force myself to listen to music over and over to convince myself that I like it. Usually my initial reaction to the music is accurate.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

You're probably like me. There's a lot of prog bands I struggled to get into at first glance. But I force myself to listen to song after song, and usually I end up liking the band.

Except Marillion...

I don't know why I can't gel with them, but it's not for a lack of trying/
 
Me too. Marillion and IQ just aren't for me. 

I won't force myself to listen to music over and over to convince myself that I like it. Usually my initial reaction to the music is accurate.
 

The word 'accurate' is interesting in this context. It suggests that there is a right or wrong music to listen to. My initial reaction to hearing Gentle Giant for the first time was 'what the f**k?!' . I gradually got over that first incredulous feeling about them and eventually gradually gained an appreciation. Also my initial reaction to Porcupine Tree was what sort of 'non prog' is this and Steven Wilson must be an a-hole thinking he is the future of prog. 15 years later I now love much of what he has done even if he is still an a-hole Wink
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Originally posted by Spacegod87 Spacegod87 wrote:

You're probably like me. There's a lot of prog bands I struggled to get into at first glance. But I force myself to listen to song after song, and usually I end up liking the band.

Except Marillion...

I don't know why I can't gel with them, but it's not for a lack of trying/
 
Me too. Marillion and IQ just aren't for me. 

I won't force myself to listen to music over and over to convince myself that I like it. Usually my initial reaction to the music is accurate.
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well my first listen to GG was 3 friends, so I think that is like what they do, becasue everything else I have heard gets compared to it
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Really like these guys now, only album I haven’t gotten into is octopus for the classics
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You're probably like me. There's a lot of prog bands I struggled to get into at first glance. But I force myself to listen to song after song, and usually I end up liking the band.

Except Marillion...

I don't know why I can't gel with them, but it's not for a lack of trying/


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I got the Link fixed now. This is a better French GG than Et Cetera
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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Yep the first 2 go together and were even re-issued as double CD set interestingly. Three Friends just doesn't fit with anything else they did imo. It feels almost unfinished but it does have some seriously stunning moments and Schooldays is one of my favourite GG tracks.

Their attempt to write a Kinks album IMO (lyrically / thematically I mean, not musically). To me it's the least interesting of their classic period albums; I think the focus on storytelling within conventional song structures detracted from their usual musical inventiveness.

Three Friends always felt the most out of place for me. I think you nailed it; they were emulating the Kinks, consciously or not (hey, great band to emulate!).

Workin' all day-ay! is still catchy as hell though.

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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Yep the first 2 go together and were even re-issued as double CD set interestingly. Three Friends just doesn't fit with anything else they did imo. It feels almost unfinished but it does have some seriously stunning moments and Schooldays is one of my favourite GG tracks.

Their attempt to write a Kinks album IMO (lyrically / thematically I mean, not musically). To me it's the least interesting of their classic period albums; I think the focus on storytelling within conventional song structures detracted from their usual musical inventiveness.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

I find the first three GG albums to be tentative and muddy-sounding. From Octopus to Interview they were as good as any band I've ever heard.
 

Are you referring to the vinyl or CD releases of the first three? I have the Line Records CD's of the first three and don't find it muddier than any other release between 1970 and 1972. Now the One Way CD of Freehand is awful. 
 
I'll retain the tentative part of his comment (the rest may differ from one release to the next), and if I agree that they were still finding their definitive style with their first albums, I tend to have more sympathy for the debut and even ATT, as 3F is probably (IMHO) their weaker album until Missing Piece (not included)
 
But my fave three would be Glass House, Octopus and Interview, as I'm not that keen about TP&TG and FH.
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

I find the first three GG albums to be tentative and muddy-sounding. From Octopus to Interview they were as good as any band I've ever heard.

I can't disagree with you here.

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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

I find the first three GG albums to be tentative and muddy-sounding. From Octopus to Interview they were as good as any band I've ever heard.
 

Are you referring to the vinyl or CD releases of the first three? I have the Line Records CD's of the first three and don't find it muddier than any other release between 1970 and 1972. Now the One Way CD of Freehand is awful. 
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Thread inspired me to listen to Acquiring the Taste again. Liking it better this time around , maybe it just took me a while to......well you know. Wink
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I find the first three GG albums to be tentative and muddy-sounding. From Octopus to Interview they were as good as any band I've ever heard.
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Edited by dr prog - August 19 2019 at 14:32
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Edited by dr prog - August 19 2019 at 14:33
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Free Hand is maybe their most accessible prog album. The later albums(last three) weren't pure prog imo but were also accessible. 

It is thought by many that their last albums were closer to a style that suited the ears of some FM radio dial stations ... the sad thing is, while a couple of things did get played, the amount of time it lasted was less and less valuable and important, as their early material had been.

I don't think that it is fair to criticize the artist's choice ... but maybe the time of them being together and creating new things had just about run its course, and creating things that were more FAMILIAR, for the ears of the fans, was easier, than having to slosh through something new and that would take far more time and effort than most members were now willing to allow for!

While still nice albums, they are nowhere near the other albums of theirs in my book ... still a lovely, and far out band, without question, but I'm not sure I would suggest those albums for starters, IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR PROGRESSIVE MUSIC, because they are far less experimental and entertaining as the other material they have.

It's just weird to me that many fans, here, select the music that is closer to the norm, and closer to the conventional staff musically, than their earlier material that challenged the status quo of your ears and music appreciation ... for me, that challenge far outweighs anything else ... including comments here!
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Free Hand is maybe their most accessible prog album. The later albums(last three) weren't pure prog imo but were also accessible. 
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