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    Posted: July 29 2018 at 20:24
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I probably am not one for these films. I always thought that they were way too cartoonish for me, and the appreciation went down from there. For me, it was the Asiatic side of Hollywood, and even though I saw some of these (less than half!), I did not review a bunch of them. I saw no point in reviewing "Kill Bill" for example, and the like. Everyone else already had!

The Bride with White Hair -- was very enjoyable, and I think there were two films, not just one. 
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Oh god I loved Kung Fu Theater--  that host was hilarious, and the movies...well, just the best of the worst.
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Cool poll - I was fortunate to be introduced to Hong Kong martial arts films in Berkeley, California at the UC Theater on University - big old unconverted movie theater - instead of the original room being chopped up into smaller rooms to make more money, this was in its original form. They had Hong Kong Thursdays and showed two films each week - I would go to the matinee and soak it up! So I don't remember names or details of some, I think I saw Iron Monkey there but none of the others on the list. 

I chose Drunken Master because I like the films of that era best, and yet I think my absolute favorite martial arts film is Duel to the Death. A gathering of martial arts masters vs. evil ninjas & Buddhist monks from Japan! Wires, special effects, and a late-analog synth-soaked soundtrack, ultra-violence - actually, I usually don't go for violence but there's something about this film. I could go on and on but I'll leave it at that. I also liked Close Encounters of the Spooky Kind and films with the hopping vampires. Shaolin monks cool too (they're in Duel to the Death). Forbidden City Cop is awesome too - not so much martial arts perhaps but definitely parody of the genre. I also would record "Kung Fu Theater" when it played on Channel 26 in the San Francisco Bay Area - it wasn't on until 2 am so didn't watch it that much - this is back in the days of VHS and I don't think I set the timer very often, I'd have to be up to start it.
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I'm quite a fan of Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris & Jean - Claude Van Damme movies. 
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Those KB movies are great.   And yeah Bruce was awesome, maybe the only martial arts film star who could fight as well as he could perform fighting, two vastly different things.
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Not a fan of martial arts films in general but Bruce Lee was amazing to watch....but for interesting acting and quirky entertainment I'd go with the Kill Bill films.
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^ Mostly true.   But there is combat Taichi, it's just very fast-paced and somewhat resembles normal gongfu competition, e.g. Sanshou, etc.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ I've seen Taichi in competitive combat and it is surprisingly intense, nothing like the slow fluid movements one sees elderly people practicing in parks.

The closest thing to real combat in tai chi would be push hands.  Also known as sensing hands, it’s used for sensitivity training and wouldn’t be considered as a way of ending a conflict.  I can’t really fathom using tai chi in a competitive combat scenario; it’s much too deadly.

There are no techniques such as different blocks, kicks or punches, there are only principles in tai chi.  The slow fluid movements for the most part are to learn how to move the body as a single unit; no limb or joint moves independently.

The internal aspects of tai chi can take decades of diligent practice to grasp.  However, it’s really not necessary when faced with ruthless violence.   Knowledge of human anatomy (targets) and how to strike using one’s entire body is really what’s essential.
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I voted for The 36th Chamber option. It was compelling and Gordon Liu was excellent. At the same time I didn't think much of Executioners From Shaolin and didn't bother finishing it.

I'm a longtime fan of wuxia HK flicks from 80's and 90's, and while Zu is a landmark flick and a lot of fun, my personal favorite is A Chinese Ghost Story from 1987. Great storyline, Wu Ma was cool, Jacky Cheung was always great and Joey Wong was the most beautiful ghost in film history. So good. Swordsman II is another one, with Jet Li, Briggite Lin (the Bride with White Hair) and lots of absolute insanity, creativity and violence.
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I also give a lot of credit to Crouching Tiger.   It was knocked by some wuxia fans for being ordinary and overrated, but to everyone else (including me) it was spectacular.   The martial arts weren't anything special but what an eyeopening piece of filmmaking.
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Was hoping to see some Kurosawa in there. I'm not too big on action films; haven't seen any of those listed. 
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^ I've seen Taichi in competitive combat and it is surprisingly intense, nothing like the slow fluid movements one sees elderly people practicing in parks.
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Lots of good movies on the list, hard to pick..  One of my favorites not on the list is Tai Chi II.

One of the very few martial arts films where Tai Chi principles are actually being used in combat scenes.   Unlike most other movies where the tai chi practitioners use very little to no tai chi in battle.  There may be scenes where they practice the tai chi form, but when it comes to the actual fight scenes the principles of tai chi are abandoned.


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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

As an aside or merely a riff on the topic at hand, I would really like to see more flicks using the Keysie fighting style that was populized in a huge way through the recent Batman movies. Personally I'd love to see a more realistic setting for this fascinating and highly efficient style of fighting.
Come to think of it, some of the stuff Liam Neeson does in Taken reminds me of Keysie although it most likely has more to do with the Filipino Arnis.
are you refairing to Bale Batmans fighting style or Afleck Batman fighting style, both had quite brutal bone crushing styles.

I'm sure he means the Bale--  Dawn of Justice had okay choreography but it was meant more for the camera, whereas the Nolan scenes were unusually realistic for two big guys with body armor like both the main characters wore.   Less freedom of movement, so traditional martial arts and the Brazilian-based groundfighting that has become so popular is not practical in the Batman world.

Anyone notice the brief rib-check Bane applies during the sewer fight scene? (when Bane says "...but we are initiated, aren't we Bruce, members of the League of Shadows.  And you betrayed us.").   That's the kind of detail that is easily missed but so great to martial artists, and rarely seen in fight scenes.




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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

As an aside or merely a riff on the topic at hand, I would really like to see more flicks using the Keysie fighting style that was populized in a huge way through the recent Batman movies. Personally I'd love to see a more realistic setting for this fascinating and highly efficient style of fighting.
Come to think of it, some of the stuff Liam Neeson does in Taken reminds me of Keysie although it most likely has more to do with the Filipino Arnis.
Interesting, I'm not familiar with that style, and while my wife was born in the Philippines, I'm not familiar with Arnis.

As another aside:
The only martial artist that I know or remember that was born in the Philippines is the diminutive Weng Weng. He made a number of Filipino films such as The Cute... the Sexy n' the Tiny, The Impossible Kid of Kung Fu, For Y'ur Height Only, Agent 00, and Chopsuey Met Big Time Papa (as Big Time Papa, cause he's little, get it?)

Great points, I too loved the fighting style and choreography in the Nolan films (almost like 'Jailhouse Rock', a prison style based on having little room for normal martial arts movements and having to react quickly with no time for technique or strategy)--  realistic and great to finally see after decades of chopsocky nonsense.   I also love the Escrima/Arnis approach in the Jason Bourne movies.




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"36 Chambers" is the only martial arts movie I ever liked


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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

As an aside or merely a riff on the topic at hand, I would really like to see more flicks using the Keysie fighting style that was populized in a huge way through the recent Batman movies. Personally I'd love to see a more realistic setting for this fascinating and highly efficient style of fighting.
Come to think of it, some of the stuff Liam Neeson does in Taken reminds me of Keysie although it most likely has more to do with the Filipino Arnis.
are you refairing to Bale Batmans fighting style or Afleck Batman fighting style, both had quite brutal bone crushing styles.
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

As an aside or merely a riff on the topic at hand, I would really like to see more flicks using the Keysie fighting style that was populized in a huge way through the recent Batman movies. Personally I'd love to see a more realistic setting for this fascinating and highly efficient style of fighting.
Come to think of it, some of the stuff Liam Neeson does in Taken reminds me of Keysie although it most likely has more to do with the Filipino Arnis.


Interesting, I'm not familiar with that style, and while my wife was born in the Philippines, I'm not familiar with Arnis.

As another aside:

The only martial artist that I know or remember that was born in the Philippines is the diminutive Weng Weng. He made a number of Filipino films such as The Cute... the Sexy n' the Tiny, The Impossible Kid of Kung Fu, For Y'ur Height Only, Agent 00, and Chopsuey Met Big Time Papa (as Big Time Papa, cause he's little, get it?)

Apparently he was a frequent visitor to the Marcos' residence. Side-note, wish I hadn't named my son Marcus, some Filipinos assume that he was named after Ferdinand Marcos.



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