Tangerine Dream to Release Quantum Gate 2CD

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Hi,

I'm not sure, but to me, there is a little touch, feel or something missing in here that is taking the complete enjoyment out of it for me. BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD THE WHOLE THING, YET!

Maybe, it is Edgar's touch himself that is missing, but the new TD, that left behind Linda Spa and Iris Camaa, is not as neat and "human" as the previous version was, and as such, this new versions is way too electronic for my tastes ... sort of like comparing Pete Namlook to Klaus Schulze, and to my ears one of them is overly metalic and the other is very dreamy, and trippy, and I think Klaus is sensitive about this feel and expression in his music.

I have not heard the whole thing, but if the CD that came with the book is an example, I'm not sure that this material is as strong as before, mainly because the third dimention is missing and I'm not sure that both Ulrich, Thorsten and Hoshiko can see that at this time, as the likelihood is that their concentration is on the mechanics of the music, instead of the "feeling" of the music itself. I think the mechanics to "translate" that inner vision is important, but in this case, it feels like a painting that took 45 days, and its background changed 27 times during that whole time, to the point that the feeling of the painting got scattered in various interpretations, instead of having one of these be the most important interpretation of all, which a faster process, might help find better than otherwise. The faster process might want to focus more on the content, and less on the mechanics, and I think that this is a balancing act, that Edgar Froese was obviously capable of dealing with sub-consciously, and it is very clearn when he alloed many of the folks with the TD band do their solo bits, which right now is invisible, and even though in concert this is really a wonderful touch and very well done, in the end, when compared to the previous amount of work ... the only thing I can say is that there is a "touch" missing.

I think their focus at this time is "mechanics" way too much as is evidenced in the way they are so faithfully showing a lot of the old material TD has, that so many folks have never seen on a stage. So, in some ways, I supposed that this makes sense and is justified, and I' m being slightly over critical of the music, but in general, TD, for 45 years, since the first piece I have ever heard, TD has NEVER EVER failed to get me going and "trip" in my mind very quickly. The current music had me trying to figure out what was going on, as there was no "visual" to work from right from the start. It felt like ... here comes the riff!

My idea, is that what is missing is the likes of Linda, Iris, Bernard, or someone else, because what they added to the whole was a lot more than we thought. They were not just an accessory to the whole. I felt they were an important part of the whole each and every time.

I'm not suggesting in any way that those folks need to return, but it might be more interesting if the current line up wants to expand an inch or more, and include someone else's input that is not so electronic, and much more "musical" ... lest we end up finding all of this called elevator music for the 21st century ... GASP ... .please .... not that! I would rather die first!

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moshkito Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 17840	Topic: Tangerine Dream to Release Quantum Gate 2CD Posted: April 01 2018 at 09:10
	Hi, I'm not sure, but to me, there is a little touch, feel or something missing in here that is taking the complete enjoyment out of it for me. BUT I HAVE NOT HEARD THE WHOLE THING, YET! Maybe, it is Edgar's touch himself that is missing, but the new TD, that left behind Linda Spa and Iris Camaa, is not as neat and "human" as the previous version was, and as such, this new versions is way too electronic for my tastes ... sort of like comparing Pete Namlook to Klaus Schulze, and to my ears one of them is overly metalic and the other is very dreamy, and trippy, and I think Klaus is sensitive about this feel and expression in his music. I have not heard the whole thing, but if the CD that came with the book is an example, I'm not sure that this material is as strong as before, mainly because the third dimention is missing and I'm not sure that both Ulrich, Thorsten and Hoshiko can see that at this time, as the likelihood is that their concentration is on the mechanics of the music, instead of the "feeling" of the music itself. I think the mechanics to "translate" that inner vision is important, but in this case, it feels like a painting that took 45 days, and its background changed 27 times during that whole time, to the point that the feeling of the painting got scattered in various interpretations, instead of having one of these be the most important interpretation of all, which a faster process, might help find better than otherwise. The faster process might want to focus more on the content, and less on the mechanics, and I think that this is a balancing act, that Edgar Froese was obviously capable of dealing with sub-consciously, and it is very clearn when he alloed many of the folks with the TD band do their solo bits, which right now is invisible, and even though in concert this is really a wonderful touch and very well done, in the end, when compared to the previous amount of work ... the only thing I can say is that there is a "touch" missing. I think their focus at this time is "mechanics" way too much as is evidenced in the way they are so faithfully showing a lot of the old material TD has, that so many folks have never seen on a stage. So, in some ways, I supposed that this makes sense and is justified, and I' m being slightly over critical of the music, but in general, TD, for 45 years, since the first piece I have ever heard, TD has NEVER EVER failed to get me going and "trip" in my mind very quickly. The current music had me trying to figure out what was going on, as there was no "visual" to work from right from the start. It felt like ... here comes the riff! My idea, is that what is missing is the likes of Linda, Iris, Bernard, or someone else, because what they added to the whole was a lot more than we thought. They were not just an accessory to the whole. I felt they were an important part of the whole each and every time. I'm not suggesting in any way that those folks need to return, but it might be more interesting if the current line up wants to expand an inch or more, and include someone else's input that is not so electronic, and much more "musical" ... lest we end up finding all of this called elevator music for the 21st century ... GASP ... .please .... not that! I would rather die first!
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	is this any different than the previous releases or is this just compiling them together in one package?
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	For Immediate Release Tangerine Dream to Release Quantum Gate / Quantum Key 2CD Set on April 20th Through Kscope The celebrated studio album celebrating 50 years of Tangerine Dream now complete with Quantum Key EP Following the release of Tangerine Dream’s latest studio album, Quantum Gate, Kscope are set to release the album as a 2CD set with the inclusion of the EP Quantum Key. Quantum Gate released on September 29th 2017, to coincide and celebrate the 50th anniversary of the foundation of the band, was the first studio album since the passing of Edgar Froese Tangerine Dream's visionary founder, by the remaining band members Thorsten Quaeschning, Ulrich Schnauss and Hoshiko Yamane. The Quantum Key EP preceded Quantum Gate, and both delivered an updated, contemporary development of their trademark sound: sequencer-driven electronica covering a wide range of moods and atmospheres from ambient soundscapes to energetic, upbeat moments. The Quantum Years material began as a concept and series of musical sketches by Froese before he passed away in 2015. Remaining band members Thorsten Quaeschning, Ulrich Schnauss and Hoshiko Yamane worked together to realize Edgar's visions and expectations of a conceptual body of work that attempts to translate quantum physics and philosophy into music. New member Ulrich Schnauss comments: “At the moment hardly any other area of science questions our concept of reality (linearity of time etc.) as profoundly as research in Quantum physics - it's no surprise therefore that Edgar was drawn to these ideas since he had always aimed at reminding listeners of the existence of 'unopened doors'.” This version of Quantum Gate with the inclusion of Quantum Key EP, brings together Edgar's vision as a 2disc set for the first time. Watch Tangerine Dream’s studio performance of “Identity Proven Matrix”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU9CHbkIwJM&feature=youtu.be Tangerine Dream have been a fundamental influence on electronic and progressive music since their formation in West Berlin, 1967. Inspiring genres, musicians and other art forms, from The Future Sound of London to Porcupine Tree, the widely popular TV show Stranger Things (for which their music also featured in) to seminal video game Grand Theft Auto V (for which they helped to write the soundtrack). The group have also received seven Grammy nominations, written over 100 studio albums and were led by Edgar Froese, who developed an instantly recognisable synth-based instrumental music based on a meditative musical experience that came to prominence in the 70s and 80s. The current line-up are currently supporting their latest material with a string of headline events in Europe, including a two-night booking at London's Union Chapel plus the opening event for Amsterdam's cutting edge electronic music summer festival, Dekmantel. 13/04 - DE, Halle/Saale - Georg-Friedrich-Händel-Halle 14/04 - DE, Dresden - Philharmonie Im Kulturpalast 23/04 - UK, London, Union Chapel - SOLD OUT 24/04 - UK, London, Union Chapel 12/05 - DE , Duisberg - Theater am Marientor; 01/08 - NL, Amsterdam - Dekmantel Festival (http://www.dekmantelfestival.com ) 04+05/08 - HU - Dádpuszta, O.Z.O.R.A. Festival ( https://ozorafestival.eu ) 12.08.18- FI, Helsinki - Flow Festival (https://www.flowfestival.com ) - first TD concert in Helsinki/Finland: DISC 1 – Quantum Gate 1 Sensing Elements [13:33] 2 Roll The Seven Twice [06:25] 3 Granular Blankets [05:03] 4 It Is Time To Leave When Everyone Is Dancing [06:36] 5 Identity Proven Matrix [05:18] 6 Non-Locality Destination [09:59] 7 Proton Bonfire [08:25] 8 Tear Down The Grey Skies [06:17] 9 Genesis Of Precious Thoughts [09:10] DISC 2 – Quantum Key 1 Genesis Of Precious Thoughts [09:10] 2 Electron Bonfire [05:03] 3 Drowning In Universes [11:04] 4 Mirage Of Reality [07:24] Pre-order Tangerine Dream's Quantum Gate / Quantum Key 2CD: https://burningshed.com/tangerine-dream_quantum-gate-quantum-key_2cd?filter_name=quantum%20key&filter_sub_category=true Tangerine Dream online: http://www.tangerinedream-music.com/newtd/ https://www.facebook.com/TANGERINEDREAM.OFFICIAL ; https://open.spotify.com/artist/1BGN1IdyiSR0ZYrkoKNchl ; https://soundcloud.com/tangerinedreamofficial2015 https://www.songkick.com/artists/16746-tangerine-dream https://twitter.com/QTangerineDream Kscope: 1st floor, 52 Lisson Street, London, UK NW1 5DF KSCOPE LOGO RGB med res.jpg Press inquiries (North America): Glass Onyon PR, PH: 828-350-8158 (US), [email protected]