Yes songs

dr wu23 wrote: Dellinger wrote:   There are some around here that say that Close to the Edge is a pop song. And they seem to be very serious about it, not just fooling around. Oh...that's just Mick having some fun after a few beers. ;)

I thought the argument was that CttE was just a very expanded version of a typical pop-song structure... but they've obviously done some very non-pop things in order to make it interesting. So much so, that it's definitely not a pop song... if all you had to do was write a very long pop song to get on PA, then Arlo Guthrie would be here too.

In the context of 80s music, Owner Of A Lonely Heart is quite pop, and in the context of early 70s music, I've Seen All Good People is like 2 pop songs in a row (or at least an accessible folky song, followed by an accessible rock song). In the context of today's music, maybe not so if that's what Cristi had in mind.

Cristi wrote: condor wrote: Is Owner of a Lonely Heart any more pop than I've Seen All Good People? neither are pop songs if you ask me, if I played them to people that listen to pop music, they wouldn't stand for it.

There are some around here that say that Close to the Edge is a pop song. And they seem to be very serious about it, not just fooling around.

And I see we returned to discuss Yes, while leaving the TTT/ROTGH Genesis comparison alone. Perhaps because that it will ultimately devolve into an '80's Genesis bashing?

^Sweet demo, never heard that one!

If you think Owner of a Lonely Heart is poppy, you should listen to Trevor Rabin's original version! (starts 1:30 in, after an acoustic demo)



I would say OoaLH definitely sounds more like it was written to be a hit pop tune; much easier to sing the chorus than trying to keep up with "Cause it's time it's time in time with your time" etc... how many times do we sing time again? And what is "I've seen all good people turn their heads each day so satisfied I'm on my way" supposed to mean, and how come they sing it on loop for 3 minutes straight? I think the average person can understand "Owner of a lonely heart, much better than an owner of a broken heart" a lot better.

While I've Seen All Good People is certainly catchy and fairly straightforward for a Yes song (plus each of the movements could stand on their own and be a nice length for radio play), it just doesn't sound as designed for radio as Lonely Heart.

Edited by richardh - January 20 2018 at 01:31

Yes. A better question would be is it any more pop than "wonderous stories?"

Quite different instrumentation..."All Good People" actually uses genuine recorders (the wind instruments) played by guest Colin Goldring; guitarra portuguesa, or Portuguese guitar, played by Howe; and old-fashioned Hammond organ vs. synth.  I don't think "All Good People" really fits the definition of "pop" as we use it on PA.  

Edited by cstack3 - January 18 2018 at 22:48

YesWest peaked early, but 75% of 90125 is a fine album. It doesn't have to be prog, and it's not trying to be.