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Posted: September 29 2023 at 05:51 |
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They have been pretty classy about it so far. I don't doubt Dave can be difficult and the contributions of Lambert and Cronk can't be minimized, but it's Dave's band and having Weaver, Willoughby, Craig and Ford at the final farewell means the history of the band was pretty well represented. As for albums, there may be more and who knows who will be on them
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Nice review on the new Strawbs Ken. I think we are both a little more receptive to the album given Dave Cousins' health issues but that didn't detract from the truth. Perhaps just the way that truth was delivered. I recall reading in a Louder Sound article, and I paraphrase, Cousins said that both Dave Lambert and Chas Cronk were invited to play on one song (Down By The Sea) at the Strawbs' farewell concert at Cropredy this year. Both declined. As for Tony Fernandez, Cousins said that he was mad about his drum tracks not being fully utilized for the Settlement album and Dave took that as quitting the band. I think that these statements from Dave add more to the confusion than detract from it. Until we hear from Lambert, Cronk and Fernandez, I don't think that we will get the full story. But given Dave's illness they might just let it go.
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Hi,
I find that some things, like good wine, get better with age. Hearing Dave speak/sing his lyrics so well and clearly, is very touching, and you know the words are strong and well meaning. I don't know what more can we ask from anyone out there in music. |
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Thought I would bump this up and ask what is your assessment of "The Magic of it all" now that it's been out a few months and things have quieted down amongst the fan base about how certain long time recent members were excluded from the album and the farewell concert. But any discussion is fair game.
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The Strawbs have always been a second tier prog group, similar to groups like Camel and even Marillion in it's present form. But all have a very dedicated core following that wouldn't trade them for all KC and Rush albums in China. Viva la difference!
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I am going to add something possibly a bit controversial to this thread. In this same section of the forum, there is a discussion about Procol Harum, with the OP concerned that they are undervalued as a prog group. From the responses you can see that many do value them and their contributions. I think what is postulated there could easily be applied to Strawbs in this age of prog overload. Many newer prog fans and older ones always thirsting for the more esoteric no longer or have never had much time for Strawbs, since one could argue they are not big P progressive. Some of these people no doubt respect their contributions, but I think some really uhdervalue them. Luckily they have many fans outside of the prog spectrum which has helped keep them going to this day
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Edited by SteveG - December 26 2021 at 14:20 |
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Hi Steve. Hope you are well in the holiday season
Strawbsweb is not always up to date these days. The link I posted is only a week old and indicates that he has had other issues since the knee replacement. Fingers crossed that his recovery goes well |
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Hello fellow Settlement fans. According to the Strawbs web, Dave had a knee replacement and is doing well. Damn old age and it's effects.
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Thanks Edouardo and Nickie. I agree with your insights. All the songs up to and including "Chorale" form a unit like no album since Ghosts IMO. While I think Ferryman's Curse had a few songs that are better than anything on Settlement, it has a few that mess up the momentum a bit, especially Dave Lambert's contribution. While the title track to that album is a riveting story, I don't care for it musically apart from the creepy intro piece.
I'm not really a fan of the bonus material om Settlement. "Champion Jack" has a great outtro but I don't find it shows Dave in good voice
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Just had a chance to listen through to the Testament recording. I have to say, I, too, think it's the strongest in a VERY long time. It felt as though it gained momentum throughout and Dave's voice, although obviously aged, wasn't coming across as strained. Truly some stellar moments, also saddened to hear that Dave is ailing so.
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Jumping on the bump, I have to say that Settlement in its basic form, without any bonuses, seems to me as brief & juicy as their old LPs used to be. Sad to hear about Dave's illness.
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strange how this thread never got a bump when Strawbs issued "Settlement" earlier this year.
What are all your impressions of that album? I think the download/LP version is as consistent as any Strawbs album since the 1970s, yet more stylistically diverse. I thought I would post this update from Dave Cousins on his health. Sad but not unexpected as far as the likely end of touring for this band. Let's hope he recovers fully, which is by far the most important thing Edited by kenethlevine - December 23 2021 at 21:26 |
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Edited by SteveG - February 22 2020 at 09:38 |
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The CD was only a copy - but if you haven't got an MP3 version I'd see if I can pass the music files onto you (I imagine you probably have, Steve) Edited by Squonk19 - February 21 2020 at 16:28 |
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Another thing I love about the Strawbs is the lyric writing!!
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Yes, Strawbs actually began as The Strawberry Hill Boys, a bluegrass band....Pretty sure you knew that, Steve, more for other folks who might not.
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Luv en! Great folk band. I've got 4 or 5 albums on vinyl and realise that I don't listen to them half as much as I would like to.
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