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sigod
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
Topic: listeners of progressive rock are evil ! Posted: October 21 2004 at 11:26 |
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Indeed.... Il n'y a aucune justice là est juste nous. I just put on 'Freewill' (Permanent Waves).
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Reed Lover
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 16 2004 Location: Sao Tome and Pr Status: Offline Points: 5187 |
Posted: October 21 2004 at 07:22 | |
Plus ca change............plus c'est la meme chose! Muslims,Christians,Commies,Liberals: They all want to tell you what to do! That is control and they can shove it! We like Prog Rock because we can think for ourselves, and we are not frightened or bothered by other's opinions of our music. Just slam "Witch Hunt" (Moving Pictures) on the turntable and play it LOUD! Edited by Reed Lover |
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sigod
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 17 2004 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 2779 |
Posted: October 21 2004 at 07:13 | |
Sorry to come to the party late. I can't get the page for some reason but by the sound of it, this guy doesn't like us very much. I have no p To date, I have yet to meet; 1. A Christian that pushed his/her religion in my face 2. A Muslim that wanted to kill me 3. A woman's beach volleyball player that returned my calls... In this climate of fear, that our leaders create in order to get themselves elected, all I can hope for is that I get a call from that cute girl who plays a good defence...
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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill |
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gdub411
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 24 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3484 |
Posted: October 21 2004 at 00:17 | |
Christian music is simply too happy..I like my music served up dark...VERY DARK!!....if I wanted to hear positive,cheery music I'll put on the Childrens Music channel on TV
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Dan Bobrowski
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 02 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5243 |
Posted: October 21 2004 at 00:06 | |
Golden Oldie.... This goes with the RUSH and LSD thread.
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asuma
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 23 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 230 |
Posted: July 29 2004 at 14:32 | |
i am pretty sure i was going to hell before i started
listening to progrock. |
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*Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.*
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flippedcanvas
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 28 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 282 |
Posted: July 28 2004 at 20:35 | |
That is a bit of a putdown! Anyways I don't just listen to progrock-by the way-I was brought up with that music ain't a newbie about it! And certainly I ain't an evil man. What's your conception of evil men anyways? Some of you'd better listen to'The lamb lies down on Broadway'guess by who? PETER GABRIEL's always had such a humanity in his lyrics,I don't know about P.COLLINS'coz simply the take over ain't that brilliant all the while. And I know 99%of their songs!
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all the knots get back to the comb.
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The Prognaut
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 14 2004 Location: Somewhere Else Status: Offline Points: 1492 |
Posted: July 20 2004 at 03:00 | |
Still, he's gotta improve his damned way of drawing Edited by landberkdoten |
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break the circle
reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
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Marcelo
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 15 2004 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 310 |
Posted: July 20 2004 at 02:06 | |
Now is pretty much better!!!! Who said that hackers are bad guys?
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Ivan_Melgar_M
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: July 19 2004 at 22:21 | |
Seems the lunatic website has been hacked by a dirty satanic prog rocker who smells like pot, never baths and has no different interest. http://www.geocities.com/evilprogressive/ Iván Edited by ivan_2068 |
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: July 15 2004 at 15:36 | |
Thanks Maani
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emdiar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 05 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 890 |
Posted: July 15 2004 at 11:44 | |
, Good call!
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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James Lee
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
Posted: July 14 2004 at 17:39 | |
I agree- let's dump this thread before I say something I'll regret later I've been noticing that I'll write a review criticizing bands about being pretentious and then go and fire off pedantic and verbose forum posts about politics and theology...I hope the irony isn't lost on anyone!
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Easy Livin
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
Posted: July 14 2004 at 15:03 | |
Maani, I echo your comments on the civilised nature of the debate in this thread. What I would say though is that while I appreciate that this thread began as discussion about whether "listeners of progressive rock are evil", it soon digressed into a theological and political discussion, far removed from music. I have no problem with such discussion, but would prefer that it be confined to the "Not related to music" section. The "Main discussions" section should be about the core subject of the forum, i.e progressive rock. I mean no disrespect to those who have carried out the discussion here, and I have no wish to attempt to stifle debate, but everything in its place...? |
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maani
Special Collaborator Founding Moderator Joined: January 30 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2632 |
Posted: July 14 2004 at 12:30 | |
All: I want to congratulate all of you on maintaining a reasoned, mature approach to this increasingly potentially "difficult" discussion. Let's make sure that we all remain in that mode, and not "personalize" the discussion. As an aside, this particular group has shown itself to be among the most truly knowledgeable, socio-politically (and in many cases "spiritually") savvy group to engage in a discussion of this type. (This is not a denigration of anyone else on the site.) It is also wonderful that all of you seem willing to learn from each other, to re-state ambiguous or misinterpreted positions, and to be thoughtful and gracious in accepting when you are "off the mark" or not entirely correct. Bravo to all of you. Peace. |
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emdiar
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 05 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 890 |
Posted: July 14 2004 at 12:13 | |
People who (with good reason) believe political debate has no place in this forum are cordially invited to ignore this post. (Let's face it, you should have done so about 3 pages ago.) James; I can tell you are a truely free thinker, like all of my many American friends who have had the benefit of perspective, ( expats', the onlooker sees most of the game after all) and are horrified at the tide of antiAmerican sentiment that is engulfing the rest of the world. There are definite parallels to be drawn between McCathy and Bush. Just as with McCathy, Bush has used the propaganda machine to spread a dangerous myth, which goes something like this: "If you're anti-me, then you're unAmerican." Quote: "If you're not with us you're against us!". I'll decide who I'm with or against thank you very much, and I won't base my decision on some misguided sense of flag waving patriotic zeal. Although I am one of those who has claimed that communism is unworkable due to the inherent greed of man, I would like to point out that I did include the proviso "when exposed to the allure of capitalism". Capitalist powers have made good and sure that such exposure is universal, whilst deliberatly scuppering communist states. The USSR did have one very important function, which was this: It created a balance of power in the world. Uncle Sam had to watch his Ps and Qs during the cold war. That counterbalance has been taken away and America has (at least in the eyes of the rest of the World) become just a little too big for its boots as a consequence. Oh yeah, one Moore thing (get it ?),...... IMHO! Love to all on both sides of the Atlantic, M.D.R.
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Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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James Lee
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 05 2004 Status: Offline Points: 3525 |
Posted: July 14 2004 at 10:18 | |
On behalf of the (many) US citizens who aren't paranoid, and who don't share our government's right wing closed-mindedness, I apologize...we Americans profess a belief in "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" but it doesn't automatically come with reason, honor, and tolerance. Despite our country's reputed embracing of 'multiculturalism', we're still very much an isolationist, puritanical people, likely to be frightened into shameful actions when we perceive a threat from an ideological force we don't understand. The views of communism have changed a little since the 1950s, when the average American was indoctrinated with Eugene McCarthy's witchburning program and drive-in movies like "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Now most Americans follow some variant of the theme "it's a nice theory, but human nature makes it impossible". Still flawed reasoning, but it's some kind of progress, I guess... I was mainly talking about the conclusions people have drawn from the failure of most communist-based revolutions, and the views Marx had concerning religion. I'm not one of those who say that Communism can't work; in fact, I think it is the purest form of democracy (another idealistic theory derided by many throughout history), and clearly better for the human spirit than the degrading and homogenizing brand of capitalism that is currently practiced. I just wish communism had given us more examples like the kibbutz, and fewer like the USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, etcetera, which (as you pointed out) briefly if ever practiced anything resembling true communism. |
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Joren
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 07 2004 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 6667 |
Posted: July 14 2004 at 06:40 | |
Maybe because, at that age, you had already learned how it felt to be bullied yourself, so you felt sorry for them? |
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JrKASperov
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 07 2004 Status: Offline Points: 904 |
Posted: July 13 2004 at 17:03 | |
Why, explain to me then how I remember watching all kinds of kids in kindergarten getting bullied and me having a bad feeling about all that? |
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Epic.
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Marcelo
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 15 2004 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 310 |
Posted: July 13 2004 at 16:18 | |
I always though that Jesus was the first true communist, trying to teach about love, peace, equality, justice, etc... Sadly, modern human history only shows two real examples of true communist life system (if I'm not wrong): The Israelian "kibbutz" and some communities in Spain before the Franco's tirany. Marxism attemps in the former Soviet Union failed because there was a political party that understood communism as another way to get all the power, forgetting idealism and freedom, the basic human right. BTW, in our capitalist societies -where ambition and greed are accepted as competition ways and politicians fill their mouthes with the word "freedom"- communism (just a political position, after all) is still demonized. I. e., each time I travel to USA I must complete a visa form that includes some questions like "are you a weapons dealer, are you a drugs dealer, did you participate in an US citizen kidnapping, etc" and... "do you belong to a communist party?" (!!!). I'm not religious, but I'm sure that there's no any religion principle talking about some kind of thoughs discrimination. So, which is the message from our "Western and Christian world"?
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