Who is more unstable: Kim or Trump?

Trump is more unstable in relative terms. Kim behaves as you would expect a North Korean leader to behave. He may seem more 'gung ho' than his father, but he is very young and may feel he has more to prove, and is very much a product of his environment.

Trump on the other hand doesn't isn;t a product of his environment, and therefore doesn't behave in a way you'd expect a president to, and displays signs of narcististic personality disorder. IMO.

Edited by Blacksword - September 04 2017 at 02:53

I don't know much about Kim Jong-un mental state, but Trump's narcissistic disorder, plus his apparent paranoid and delusional psychoses probably makes him unstable.

The cartoonist Scott Adams of the Dilbert cartoons would argue that Trump is a master persuader (I'd use the term con man), is perfectly rational and has a brilliant plan that seems unstable and unpredictable, but that's so that his adversaries don't know what he's doing.

The T wrote: Typical easy poll without any serious thought. Kim is not unstable. All he does is rational towards his goals. Trump may be a little unstable due to his narcissism.

The poll is just for fun T. Btw, everyone should already a have a firm opinion of the stability of both by now without extensive exposition and discussion.

Edited by SteveG - September 01 2017 at 08:00

Maybe this is just a semantics thing, because I do think Trump has serious psychological issues, but I think of 'unstable' as unpredictable. Trump is very predictable to the extent that nothing he does really surprises me. He's an extreme narcissist to a degree in which it is a genuine disorder, beyond what might be considered merely a charming personality trait.

P.S. I'm reading Micky's post after already posting myself. We obviously agree on the disorder part. I would just emphasize that he's a very reliable narcissist. Reliable isn't really good when it means we expect him to lash out illogically when cornered on even petty issues that threaten his perception of how other people regard him. Dangerous, but highly digestible and not at all surprising when interpreted through the lens of a narcissist. He's a whole lot easier to predict that Kim Jeoung Un for me, but I don't know a lot about the Korean leader except that he does surprise me and that there are rumors about him of a few eccentricities.




Edited by HackettFan - August 31 2017 at 21:06

Typical easy poll without any serious thought. Kim is not unstable. All he does is rational towards his goals. Trump may be a little unstable due to his narcissism. 

SteveG wrote: The poll has multiple votes. Hit em both!

What third option? You listed two (2) people, both clearly functioning as expected within their own realm.

If they seem unstable to you it's probably because one is driven by an ideology and the other is a businessman.

lazland wrote: Kim Wrong'Un is not unstable. Mr Porky is, in fact, extremely stable and absolutely determined to keep onto power and wrest concessions from a world utterly unable to contemplate the prospect of a conflagration between America and China, let alone South Korea being blown to bits. No matter how pissed off the Chinese are at Porky, that state is there for a reason, a buffer between China and the West. That ain't going to change, and Porky knows this full well. He also knows that his predecessors have historically gained concessions in return for reining back for a wee while militarily. He also struck mercilessly against Uncle and his older brother, Kim Pork Senior. Reports now suggest that Uncle went to China and offered to replace Porky with Porky Senior, and him, of course, as the "stabilising" factor in the regime change. The reaction of Porky suggests a man absolutely in control, and willing to do anything to keep control. He is dangerous, a terrible human being, but not unstable. As for Trumpalot, he is beginning to realise an important lesson, that being that US Presidents, in reality, have very little power to change radically American society, economy, and how politics works. The checks and balances in the constitution prevent him from doing so, and the establishment, Republicans included, are not particularly minded to assist him in his so-called radicalism. He is, however, extremely good at continuing to engage his core support behind him, you know, the ones that the Democrats took for granted and pissed off for so many years. That suggests to me a stable individual. Narcissistic, yes. Power hungry, certainly. Unstable, no I do not think so. So, no vote, as neither fit the bill.

Hmm...perhaps I should have asked "who seems more unstable?"

Kim Wrong'Un is not unstable. Mr Porky is, in fact, extremely stable and absolutely determined to keep onto power and wrest concessions from a world utterly unable to contemplate the prospect of a conflagration between America and China, let alone South Korea being blown to bits.

No matter how pissed off the Chinese are at Porky, that state is there for a reason, a buffer between China and the West. That ain't going to change, and Porky knows this full well. He also knows that his predecessors have historically gained concessions in return for reining back for a wee while militarily.

He also struck mercilessly against Uncle and his older brother, Kim Pork Senior. Reports now suggest that Uncle went to China and offered to replace Porky with Porky Senior, and him, of course, as the "stabilising" factor in the regime change. The reaction of Porky suggests a man absolutely in control, and willing to do anything to keep control.

He is dangerous, a terrible human being, but not unstable.

As for Trumpalot, he is beginning to realise an important lesson, that being that US Presidents, in reality, have very little power to change radically American society, economy, and how politics works. The checks and balances in the constitution prevent him from doing so, and the establishment, Republicans included, are not particularly minded to assist him in his so-called radicalism.

He is, however, extremely good at continuing to engage his core support behind him, you know, the ones that the Democrats took for granted and pissed off for so many years. That suggests to me a stable individual. Narcissistic, yes. Power hungry, certainly. Unstable, no I do not think so.

So, no vote, as neither fit the bill.