Why dont many girls like prog?

Karen loves her some Phideaux. Oh and I believe Eleonora is very big on Amon Düül ll.

Why don't many men like showtunes????!?!?!!!??
What's the difference between an orange? It neither flies.
What's the difference between a duck? It neither wears a tie.

I knitted a mascot out of foam and gorgonzola together with four feminist ice cream vendors from Bavaria in order to realise the truth: all women live on earth.

DreamTechPlus wrote: That's very interesting. Every single one of my friends who listens to prog, not one of them is male. Maybe it's regional.

I also live in Australia. Is it Brenda and Sheila, those matching moles from Ipswich?


Edited by ExittheLemming - July 14 2017 at 07:57

This is getting amusing. So a piece of music, prog, or say a classical work might be quite lengthy. And this is "immature" yet a top 20 pop tune of 1.5 minutes (extended to 3.5) is mature.

It's all about your social environment and demand. Women have something men want. Women therefore do not waste time and money on listening to Beethoven symphonies while they can get some guy to squire her to the concert or opera (not a prog concert obviously); the social cache gets increased. Instead they watch movies and TV to have something to talk about among other women. For the same reason guys are into sports. Conversation pieces.

Women can get into serious music of course they do but only in tme becuase they have a busier social schedule.

Of course there is no excuse for feeble headed guys into the most hideous pop content (sampled material some of my favourite hates). But as the western world has become more feminized culturally then the musical emphasis will be more on the briefer, yet repetitive audio wall paper. And the associated dudes are playing catch up as opposed to finding a new world (Dvorak or anything prog rock).

Essentially it's too time consumptive for too many.

An incredible amount of bending over backwards in here to save feelings. It's simple: men make things. Tall buildings, prog rock, an endless supply of excuses for women (I kid...but seriously). Women are more practical than men. Progressive Rock is something that men made in their free time that impresses other men (because the amount of work that went in is obvious), but to most (yes, most) women a 20 minute song seems self-indulgent and immature, when they can get everything they want out of music in 3.5 minutes.

Yes, didn't mention it specifically because she is the engineer cousin I mentioned a few lines before that.

CorwinA wrote: Ok - I honestly find it kind of hilarious that *yet another* one of my interests has been deemed Boy Stuff. I mean, I'm used to it by now given I grew up being into space Lego and Star Wars and video games and whatnot; by the time I got to college (majoring in electrical engineering) I was so accustomed to being surrounded by dudes that encountering another female in my chosen territory often actively weirded me out.  That said...I think all this discussion of "why aren't more women into prog" is essentially the same conversation that happens when people start speculating on why more women aren't STEM majors / engineers/ etc. And the answer is the same: "it's complicated". Honestly, I think a lot of it is down to a feedback loop: way back in the day, before birth control and such, women were often relegated to a life of baby-having and domestic duties from a fairly young age. Now, even in first-world situations where we have more of a choice regarding such things, and where there is generally a built-in egalitarian expectation surrounding domestic labor proliferated throughout mainstream culture, little kids still get bombarded from all sides with expectations of gender-role performance. Even if it isn't overt or shoved down throats, so to speak, most children pick up and absorb a ton of ideas from their society and family groups, and are compelled, consciously or not, to behave accordingly. There *may* be a biological component to some of this, but I would assert it is minuscule compared to social feedback loops. I mean i have literally seen people try to claim that girls are drawn to pink because cave-women used to forage for red berries, which is just absurd, especially considering until around the 1930s or thereabouts, blue was considered a girl color and pink was for boys.  But in any event - I think that the women in modern first-world countries who end up getting into prog are going to be those who have, by virtue of early experiences, family environment, and possibly neurological makeup, managed to like what they like regardless of what the mainstream culture expects of girls. In my case I had a father who was into prog, plus I am on the autism spectrum, so maybe those things contributed. I never really felt beholden to acting like a "girl", Iat least in the sense of gravitation toward or away from particular interests based on gender role stuff.

The T wrote: ExittheLemming wrote: The T wrote: Why do so few men run countries in Europe  because out of 28 member states there are 5 female presidents and 4 female prime ministers which clearly indicate that either pesky arithmetic or character references from your guy are the culprit My post was rubbish, in the spirit of this thread  Having said that, look at your old empire, or the old Reich, currently run by women. That should give wart-swamped misogynists headaches even though, dammit,  women don't like Jon Anderson's nonsense in the same rates as men.

There's been a lot of rubbish posted in the thread but that's like blaming the paint factory for the graffiti. i think the topic thought provoking and worthwhile but have no idea how the historical British Empire equates to an 'old reich run by women'. Jon Anderson might actually make more sense than you do?

The T wrote: Why do so few men run countries in Europe

because out of 28 member states there are 5 female presidents and 4 female prime ministers which clearly indicate that either pesky arithmetic or character references from your guy are the culprit


Edited by ExittheLemming - June 08 2017 at 08:23

Kepler62 wrote: Maybe she just gave up like I'm about to. I mean 12 pages of this nonsense?

Big Ears wrote: There was a girl on this site, called threefates, who was a big ELP fan. I am not sure what happened to her, but one of the PA stalwarts might know.  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=498

There's been numerous female members of this forum. In remember Threefates quite well. I think she used to actually know ELP.