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    Posted: December 22 2017 at 17:23
Originally posted by raom raom wrote:

This is the kind of thread I've been looking for. I knew about half of the albums in the OP, but the rest are new to me.

Silly puppy, you should really look into avant-garde 20th century classical music. The likes of Xenakis, Messiaen, Stockhausen, Webern, made some of the most mind-bending music to a point not even prog can achieve.

Hey, sorry i missed this way back. I do love classical music. I have some Xenakis and Stockhausen. Messiaen and Webern not so much but they are certainly on my radar. I'm just too overwhelmed by all the stuff i've got so far! I'll get to them eventually. It's really difficult to navigate the classical world as well since most of it isn't performed by the composers. Thanks for the suggestion nonetheless

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For anyone interested, this has been updated and added onto many times since i first started it. Have had quite a few interesting suggestions. More crazy complex prog than i knew existed. Yay!

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This is the kind of thread I've been looking for. I knew about half of the albums in the OP, but the rest are new to me.

Silly puppy, you should really look into avant-garde 20th century classical music. The likes of Xenakis, Messiaen, Stockhausen, Webern, made some of the most mind-bending music to a point not even prog can achieve.


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The World of Genius Hans has arrived! I am complete....for the next coupe hours.

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Originally posted by Thatfabulousalien Thatfabulousalien wrote:

This is as complex and heavy as it gets: 




Maybe you should check out Roger McGuinn's comment here http://www.topix.com/forum/who/the-beatles/TR7Q7E2FCV5BVAHE4
when he first heard "I Wanna Hold Your Hand"........not as simple as you ironically imply.
 
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^ Dude, all I can say to that is 'WOW'..........
I thought that here I'm listening to Animals As Leaders meets Meshuggah. I am really blown away at these incredible musicians. I will never think that 'Growl' vocals are awesome. I accept them within the incredible music I listen to, and then, they fit as another instrument as such. At least that is my approach and mentality............
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

^ I only have their Tank Goodness LP, and it's a superb 'djenty' (for want of a better word) jazz-fusion masterpiece. Love, love, love it !! Jazz-Metal. Who'd have thought ??

I actually thought Tank Goodness was a bit of a step down from their previous 2 so I delayed picking up Breaking Brain. Just picked it up. Its pretty insane. But if you can get Star Stucke and Hart Gennossen, pick them up. 

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This is as complex and heavy as it gets: 
Classical music isn't dead, it's more alive than it's ever been. It's just not on MTV.

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^ I only have their Tank Goodness LP, and it's a superb 'djenty' (for want of a better word) jazz-fusion masterpiece. Love, love, love it !! Jazz-Metal. Who'd have thought ??
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Another suggestion for the complexolista, Panzerballett (don't think I suggested them yet) known for their wacky Jazzmetal covers. Like:


and 


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Their most recent "Breaking Brain", possibly the most complex yet. Highly recommended. And its available on importcd's. Evil Smile 

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Finally got the MGP debut. Pretty twisted stuff, fun stuff. Still no Genius Hans. 

importcds failed to send listed 'in stock' item this time. Angry Still going to use them since so many things are a fraction of price at other distributors. Just requires vigilance I guess.

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^ Discogs is your friend here.  Several sellers in the US with copies for $15.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:


I forgot to warn you. ImportCDs is a great site with things in stock. I have had very few problems when things ARE in stock. However.....

Whelp, as you say...

Genius Hans is no longer even an item that shows up on search. Ouch 


But Amazon has it now for $24!!!! loollollo




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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

BTW, I was preaching the virtues of Island to a buddy of mine in San Diego and he apparently walked into some second hand music store and found it. Absurd luck.

Hahaha too funny. Exact same thing happened to me and a friend a few months ago (albeit with a different crazy complex prog album) after I got him hooked on Bubu's Anabelas.
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What can I say?

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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

^I'm a Prime member for a number of different reasons, so they have me by the progsack. There are a number of cool features to it. Plus my wife lets me use the reward points for prog.

YOU WORSHIP SATAN!!!! I LOVE YOU!!!!


I scoped discogs but I was leery. Have you purchased from them?


BTW, I was preaching the virtues of Island to a buddy of mine in San Diego and he apparently walked into some second hand music store and found it. Absurd luck.

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^I'm a Prime member for a number of different reasons, so they have me by the progsack. There are a number of cool features to it. Plus my wife lets me use the reward points for prog.

I scoped discogs but I was leery. Have you purchased from them?

BTW, I was preaching the virtues of Island to a buddy of mine in San Diego and he apparently walked into some second hand music store and found it. Absurd luck.

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Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ that's ridiculous for the MOVING GELATINE PLATES

you should get BOTH of their first two albums. 2nd is slightly better but but mandatory prog listenings IMHO
here they are for normal prices



Thanks again for turning me onto this site. I have primarily used Amazon, wayside, Lasers edge, Synphonic ..and thrift stores(not a great source for obscurity) in the past. They have far better prices, especially on stuff from Italy and Norway that I previously paid dearly for. Ironically, Genius Hans was not in the box and ended up on backorder. LOL  I didn't order the MGP debut yet, I need to prioritize my recent binge.

At the risk of annoying redundancy...f'ing POIL man! Brossaklit is is so in yer face, but I am loving the contrast of the piano heavy debut. Going to wait awhile to get the 2nd album. Need to digest a little.   

I forgot to warn you. ImportCDs is a great site with things in stock. I have had very few problems when things ARE in stock. However, i have never been able to get on a waiting listing for a pre-order or receive a back order without complications. Also the two times i have had a defective product has been a headache to get replaced. Overall i'd give a 99% positive rating but be warned to ONLY order merchandise that is CLEARLY in stock.

Also check out DiscCogs. Have bought many through them. MusicStack is not bad as well. Amazon is evil and the absolute LAST resort.

Poil is one of my favorite newer bands. Zappaesque in the 21st century for sure

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ that's ridiculous for the MOVING GELATINE PLATES

you should get BOTH of their first two albums. 2nd is slightly better but but mandatory prog listenings IMHO
here they are for normal prices



Thanks again for turning me onto this site. I have primarily used Amazon, wayside, Lasers edge, Synphonic ..and thrift stores(not a great source for obscurity) in the past. They have far better prices, especially on stuff from Italy and Norway that I previously paid dearly for. Ironically, Genius Hans was not in the box and ended up on backorder. LOL  I didn't order the MGP debut yet, I need to prioritize my recent binge.

At the risk of annoying redundancy...f'ing POIL man! Brossaklit is is so in yer face, but I am loving the contrast of the piano heavy debut. Going to wait awhile to get the 2nd album. Need to digest a little.   

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