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Arsillus
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Topic: Drug’s impact on music Posted: September 04 2005 at 18:13 |
The Miracle wrote:
IMO there a better ways to get inspiration |
I concur.
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Raff
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 12:49 |
I don't think drugs are a good idea to get inspiration, but on the other hand it's true that even some great literary masterpieces owe something to the use of opiates. In any case, I don't really believe it is the drugs that give the inspiration: they may merely enhance what's already there. If the inspiration is really missing, there's nothing in the world that can make it appear from out of nowhere.
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 02:55 |
el böthy wrote:
Frank Zappa, though 90% of his fans vere all stoners, he did no drugs! |
He stated in his biography (The REAL Frank Zappa book, I recall) that he did some marihuana sometimes, but he didn't enjoy it much. So he wasn't a junkie.
The poll lacks an option "hell yeah, only way to do muzac!" for serious spaceheads.
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Nipsey88
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 02:28 |
Sorry, but as a musician and an occasional pot smoker, I would have to
to agree that it is beneficial. Most of our fave prog was
writen/recorded under the influence. Zappa, Fripp, et al. not with
standing; psychedelic drugs are influential in a big way in prog. While
I certainly think that it is not necessary, psychedelics bring an
open mind to the table.
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The Miracle
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 01:58 |
IMO there a better ways to get inspiration
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Borealis
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Posted: September 04 2005 at 00:33 |
Honestly, it help the music to diversifiate. It help expand the world of music, it help making new kinds, new stuff.
I feel a good musician (a good artist) do not need drugs. He might find a some new possibilities, but not as many as if he was in a normal state of mind.
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SomethingGood
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 11:02 |
i don't give a crap. i love good music, regardless of who made it and how they got their inspiration.
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Posted: September 03 2005 at 09:54 |
I think that using drugs to write music is merely cheating. If one needs to alter his normal perspectives with some kind of stuff he has some problems with creativity and I don't give a damn about what he writes. The problem is: what can the drugs REALLY DO in the process of composing a piece of music? Is that true that they give you the real inspiration or, as someone says, they write the music for you? I have many doubts about that...famous musicians who made use of drugs with consciousness (aka The Beatles) would tell you that it just gives you a different level of perception, then YOU have to use that new perception to write a worthy tune...others just don't seem to cope with music anymore once they're "cleaned up"...so I don't know what to think. Anyway, in every case I don't agree with using drugs as a helping tool for composing, it's really like cheating.
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el böthy
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Posted: September 02 2005 at 21:30 |
I say if it works for some...but I also find very interesting that a lot of prog musician didnt do drugs! Frank Zappa, thought 90% of his fans vere all stoners, he did no drugs! Robert Fripp neither! and a lot more...but if you really want to read about musci and drugs read Daniel Gildenglow interview on this site...he really says some smart things! hehehe
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 01 2005 at 04:42 |
I dont care if an artist uses drugs or not to write songs on, as long as the end result is worth listening to. I think over 60% of Hawkwinds output suffered badly through writing under the influence
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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stripthesoul
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 19:47 |
"A lot of good has come from drugs. I think "Penny Lane" is worth 10 dead kids. "Dark Side of the Moon" is worth 100 dead kids. Because a lot of kids wouldn't even be born if it weren't for that album, so it evens out."
-Bill Maher
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 19:27 |
sorry.. the question is "What do you think about the artist's using mind-altering drugs to hear wonderful songs in different dimensions and then writing them down?"
Ex: Harmonium's Serge Fiori who reached a high consciousness level and heard his wonderful song "Histoires Sans Paroles" in a dream.
or Pink Floyd's early psychedelic works
even Beethoven was known to have written a few songs from having been in high levels of consciousness and hearing a few nice melodies. but probably through meditation.
Edited by stebo32
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