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    Posted: May 31 2005 at 04:05
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Except, maybe, Chopin or Liszt?

Chopin and especially Liszt give you a lot to do, but still the left hand is mostly accompaniment (apart from double handed runs over the keyboard). But Bach treats both hands equally; that's what I meant to say in my post. With Bach you have to play different voices with the left hand too. Bach sounds easy to play compared to Liszt, but because of this characteristic Bach is difficult as hell. No wonder Glenn Gould loved Bach so much.

What about Domenico Scarlatti? I have the feeling you'd better have three hands and seven fingers in each to play his music...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 21:21
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Except, maybe, Chopin or Liszt?

Chopin and especially Liszt give you a lot to do, but still the left hand is mostly accompaniment (apart from double handed runs over the keyboard). But Bach treats both hands equally; that's what I meant to say in my post. With Bach you have to play different voices with the left hand too. Bach sounds easy to play compared to Liszt, but because of this characteristic Bach is difficult as hell. No wonder Glenn Gould loved Bach so much.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 15:09

Except, maybe, Chopin or Liszt?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 14:06

Classical violinist Hilary Hahn once said: "Nobody ever says: 'God, I hate Bach!' He was the fundament for everything that followed." I have nothing to add to that, except that I play his preludes and fugues too, and I never get tired of them (only my left hand does because Bach surely gives you a lot to do there, more than any other composer)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 10:20
Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

I've listened to novackeck small study pieces...great!!! an excellent exemple of cool, emotional & technical violin solo (just as Paganini caprices)

IMHO, Paganini's caprices = John Petrucci soloing...

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 10:00

I've listened to novackeck small study pieces...great!!! an excellent exemple of cool, emotional & technical violin solo (just as Paganini caprices)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 09:55
I'm not a great Bach fan too...

But i think you have to get into, like everything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 09:50
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Bach written ones of the most boring pieces in Classical music...I've played almost all his preludes and fugues from the well tempered clavier...now I get tired of it!!

Maybe it is boring but it will surely better stand the test of time than most of the krautrock/electronic and other weird musics.

It's too early to confirm that...but I let you the opportunity to think so! You should say Prog music in general won't pass the test of time...Symphonic and art rock is by far more dated than krautrock

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2005 at 07:29
Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Bach wrote by numbers - he wasn't that great

The little tongue stickey-outey smiley indicates that I am joking!!!

Yep, but I think John Forbes Nash ("A Beautiful Mind") also "wrote by numbers" and he was quite great... Sometimes you can be really creative, even sublime, only with numbers!

Now, all of you proggers need a good scolding: plenty of answers to this thread and nobody has mentioned the mad flautist playing J.S. Bach's Bourée!!!

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 20:54

He was the master in hs style.

Even his kids realize that, spenting their musical lives searching in other directions. They were smart and thought that they could never beat the old guy.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:16

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Bach written ones of the most boring pieces in Classical music...I've played almost all his preludes and fugues from the well tempered clavier...now I get tired of it!!

school damages !     

anyway i don't like Buch that much... and baroque in general 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:14

Originally posted by philippe philippe wrote:

Bach written ones of the most boring pieces in Classical music...I've played almost all his preludes and fugues from the well tempered clavier...now I get tired of it!!

Maybe it is boring but it will surely better stand the test of time than most of the krautrock/electronic and other weird musics.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:41
Bach written ones of the most boring pieces in Classical music...I've played almost all his preludes and fugues from the well tempered clavier...now I get tired of it!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 04:43
Originally posted by gentstan gentstan wrote:

 


 


Personally, I like to think that many classical composers would be prog rockers if they were alive today.


 


 



Better, without Bach no prog-rock!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 04:42
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 01:36
Originally posted by Joren Joren wrote:

Originally posted by gentstan gentstan wrote:

Personally, I like to think that many classical composers would be prog rockers if they were alive today.

I think it would be more likely that they would be composing modern classical music, which is also very challenging...

I believe Classic, Baroque and even Romantic composers would be creating modern Classical music, Bach is an exception, I also believe he would be making prog, a genre where his magnifiscent organ would really shine.

But I'm almost sure that most if not all late Romantic/Early Modern Russian composers like Cui, Borodin, Rimsky Korsakov, Mussorgski, etc, would be making Progressive Rock.

Mostly because the last ones broke with all the European Clasical composers to make their own music, so my opinion is thatthey would be working with something more experimental like Prog. They were the real predecessors of Prog' because they mixed some classical influences with folkloric Russian music, one of the first examples of real experimentation.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2005 at 01:19

I just listened to Bach's flute Concertos (with Flute and Harpsichord)

simply breathtaking

georgeous stuff

this is why I love Symphonic Prog, the melodic beauty.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2004 at 04:55
Originally posted by Marcelo Marcelo wrote:

 

 Yes!!! And Dick Heath wrote about Walter/Wendy Carlos: Remember the "Switched-On Bach" I & II covers.  

 

Check this out:

http://www.wendycarlos.com/discs.html

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2004 at 17:02

 

Don't forget Steve Hackett's rendition of Bach's Bouree in his 'Momentum' classically priented album. he even labels Bach as "such a great bass player".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 30 2004 at 16:35
I love Bach's violin concertos.. My nr 1 relaxation method:
Bach + Nature + paper and inkt

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