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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 22:22 |
There are 3 or 4 I havent heard ever, because I lost the interest for the band after ATTW3 (Not because it was goiod, but because I bought the first day of release and still have it almost brand new).
But I hate each and every one of the 15 or 18 songs I heard.
Iván
BTW: The others I have probably heard in any elevator but don't know the names. 
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FragileDT
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 22:19 |
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[QUOTE=Poxx] Missing the infamous album ruiner: 'For Absent Friends'.[/
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For Absent Friends is Collins singing? I always thought it was Gabriel. It's a
great song anyway. Other than that I hate all Collins ballads and songs you
listed (from the ones I've heard.)
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless Compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity
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raindance
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 21:52 |
I refuse to participate in any thread about this horrible little man
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Trotsky
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 21:41 |
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I find Disney Phil Collins to be an irreprehensible slimy, scury worm of a person,but I wont go into that any further..
His balladry was an annoying aspect of 80`s Genesis, diluting the group in quality. After a while, it was hard to distinguish the Phil solo slop from the Genesis ballads, because most of that dreck was similar in it`s banality. And most twitheaded music fans in the 80`s thought solo Phil Collins and Genesis were one and the same.
I didn`t care for his balladry whatsover. Its phony and plastic , especially in light of past events with his second marriage breakup. Disney Phil is an unctious, smarmy piece of filth who would have you believe he`s a martyr.This is a man who based his solo career on the hurt and anguish of his first divorce, yet he caused the same hurt and anguish to his second wife. What a hypocrite!!!
To answer the question proper after that rant, whcich I won`t apologize for;I don`t like Phil ballads and I have no use for him as a singer, post Duke. And if a Genesis reunion were to occur, he`s best off behind the drum stool with his rear end taped to the drum seat and his mouth sealed shut.. |
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Come on Murder ... get off the fence
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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DEzerov
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:21 |
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Lemme see if I can find any Phil Collins' voodoo dolls on Ebay.........
Damn...where's my duck tape?...
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The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol
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Murder1
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:19 |
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I find Disney Phil Collins to be an irreprehensible slimy, scury worm of a person,but I wont go into that any further..
His balladry was an annoying aspect of 80`s Genesis, diluting the group in quality. After a while, it was hard to distinguish the Phil solo slop from the Genesis ballads, because most of that dreck was similar in it`s banality. And most twitheaded music fans in the 80`s thought solo Phil Collins and Genesis were one and the same.
I didn`t care for his balladry whatsover. Its phony and plastic , especially in light of past events with his second marriage breakup. Disney Phil is an unctious, smarmy piece of filth who would have you believe he`s a martyr.This is a man who based his solo career on the hurt and anguish of his first divorce, yet he caused the same hurt and anguish to his second wife. What a hypocrite!!!
To answer the question proper after that rant, whcich I won`t apologize for;I don`t like Phil ballads and I have no use for him as a singer, post Duke. And if a Genesis reunion were to occur, he`s best off behind the drum stool with his rear end taped to the drum seat and his mouth sealed shut.. |
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DEzerov
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 16:14 |
Maybe if we all hold our collective breaths long enough and stomp our
feet really loud, Phil will stop accepting all of his royalty cheques
for sales for all albums prior to Abacab
...will the circle be unbroken, by and by Lord, by and by?...
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The moon is made by some lame cooper and you can see the idiot has no idea about moons at all - Nikolay Gogol
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 13:23 |
BiGi wrote:
[QUOTE=Poxx] Missing the infamous album ruiner: 'For Absent Friends'. |
For Absent Friends is WONDERFUL! I can't see why many people despise it... I feel the same way.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 13:18 |
Trotsky, I think I know all the songs you mentioned, although about two songs don't sound familiar to me, but then again, I'd like to add That's just the way it is and Can't stop loving you, so that adds up to about 18 ballads as well.
So a) about 18
b) I like most of them more or less; there goes my credibility on the forum 
c) My favourite: We Said Hello Goodbye, which is the bonus track on the cd No Jacket Required (it's not on the LP).
Other favourites of mine: Please Don't Ask, Misunderstanding, Take Me Home and Groovy Kind Of Love. I ought to mention also the music to In The Air Tonight, with the great drum sounds.
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Posted: October 26 2005 at 12:23 |
One more time ... just for Ivan 
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Trotsky
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Posted: August 31 2005 at 23:55 |
Not enough people have fessed up ... c'mon, surely the big boys of PA have sung along to a Phil ballad ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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BiGi
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 03:42 |
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A flower?
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 03:39 |
In my opinion, they are all mostly awful.
'In the air tonight' and 'I missed again' are the only two Phil Collins solo songs I like. Of all the ballads he recorded with Genesis I quite like 'Taking it all too hard' and I can tolerate 'Throwing it all away'
Covers like 'Groovy kind of love' make me feel physically ill....
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Trotsky
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Posted: August 30 2005 at 02:12 |
frenchie wrote:
IMO More Fool Me and For Absent Friends are NOT album ruiners |
Agreed ... and you'll be the one who was laughing ...
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"Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.”
"No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present."
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 14:07 |
I quite like "Follow You Follow Me", the rest 
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:34 |
frenchie wrote:
IMO More Fool Me and For Absent Friends are NOT album ruiners |
Genesis - Nursery crime
1. The musical box (10/10)
2. For absent friends (10/10)
3. The return of the giant hogweed (10/10)
4. Seven stones (10/10)
5. Harold the barrel (10/10)
6. Harlequin (10/10)
7. The fountain of Salmacis (10/10)
And still I think SEbtP and Tlldob are better just because there is more minutes of music on it...
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Right down the line
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Odd24
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 13:24 |
Trotsky wrote:
More Fool Me (7/10)
Follow You Follow Me (9/10)
Misunderstanding (8/10)
Please Don't Ask (haven't heard it enough...)
Taking It All Too Hard (10/10)
It's Gonna Get Better (5/10)
In Too Deep (8/10)
Throwing It All Away (9/10)
Never A Time (haven't heard it enough...)
Hold On My Heart (9/10)
Since I Lost You (haven't heard it enough...)
You Know What I Mean (?)
If Leaving Me Is Easy (?)
This Must Be Love (?)
Don't Let Him Steal Your Heart Away (?)
Why Can't It Wait Till Morning (?)
One More Night (9/10)
Take Me Home (8/10)
Long Long Way To Go (?)
We Said Hello Goodbye (?)
Against All Odds (9/10)
Separate Lives (7/10)
Do You Remember (8/10)
Another Day In Paradise (7/10)
Groovy Kind Of Love (6/10, Mindbenders 4/10)
Two Hearts (9/10)
Everyday (8/10)
It's In Your Eyes (?)
You'll Be In My Heart (5/10)
True Colors (7/10, Cindy Lauper 9/10)
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What a great topic. And still I think Gabriel-era Genesis is better...
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Right down the line
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BiGi
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 10:57 |
Mategra wrote:
BiGi wrote:
2) I DON'T LIKE at all Taking It All Too Hard |
What do you have against that song? (Oh no not this confused again)I think it's a perfect synthesis of Collins' and Banks' different styles, one of the highlights on Genesis (Shapes). |
I simply find it duller than the rest, and it raises no emotions in me.
Nor I find it funny or weird.
That's all 
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A flower?
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NetsNJFan
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:43 |
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I agree, In the Air Tonight is an amaaazing song, surprising from Collins. It was meant for Duke, but Banks nixed it. Oh Well. It could of replaced two sh*tty songs there.
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Mategra
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Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:21 |
BiGi wrote:
2) I DON'T LIKE at all Taking It All Too Hard |
What do you have against that song? (Oh no not this confused again)
I think it's a perfect synthesis of Collins' and Banks' different styles, one of the highlights on Genesis (Shapes).
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