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fender101 
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 05:58 |
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Definatly and excellent singer and songwriter. Its a shame he didnt have more opportunity to display his electric guirar skill.
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Well McGarnical Billy is dead! They slit his throat from ear to ear!
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BiGi
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Posted: October 12 2005 at 03:51 |
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I definitely love Greg Lake's voice (pre-Black Moon...in the last two albums he pretty much sounds like a wino here and there)
And I must say I like the majority of his ballads, though I can't stand some of his last efforts (like the horrible Heart on ice or Affairs of the heart)
His best latter-day ballad is Daddy: wonderful intro...then it loses its strength, but overall is good
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margaret
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 19:41 |
 Phil wrote:
I think Greg Lake's an excellent singer and songwriter, and a fine guitarist.
It's interesting (to me anyway) to read from Emerson's autobiography, and watch on the documentary on "Beyond the Beginning", both Emerson and Lake were clearly very strong personalities who clashed a lot, Emerson annoyed with Lake using the band as a vehicle for his ballads, Lake annoyed with Emerson for - as he saw it - hijacking the group for his own projects - he makes a sarcastic comment about the "armadillo with tank tracks" (Tarkus!)
It's great they were in the same band, perhaps not suprising the group burnt out..anyhow I digress; what i would say is that I think being in ELP made Greg Lake (and Keith Emerson) push each other and perform at a higher level...as part of which I do think Greg Lake came up with some great songs. |
I've been meaning to get that Emerson book.
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margaret
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 19:40 |
Philrod wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Greg Lake's my favourite singer, and I love some of his ballads. I always thought that that was the strength of ELP, the contrast between Emerson's complex stuff and Lake's open, pure sounding ballads.
I like Lucky Man, Still You Turn Me On and the only track on Pictures that was not a Mussorgsky but a Lake tune, was that called The Great Gates Of Kiev? Well, I especially like those tracks. Great singer, great lyricist, great guitar player, great ballad composer.
Time for an applause 
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In fact, you're talking about The sage |
good call, love The Sage. Love the whole album for what it's worth. Thankfully on the DVD they didn't start all the 'trippy' effects until they had peformed it.  Shame they couldn't release a version of Pictures at an Exhibition without the special effects.
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Phil
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 17:27 |
I think Greg Lake's an excellent singer and songwriter, and a fine guitarist.
It's interesting (to me anyway) to read from Emerson's autobiography, and watch on the documentary on "Beyond the Beginning", both Emerson and Lake were clearly very strong personalities who clashed a lot, Emerson annoyed with Lake using the band as a vehicle for his ballads, Lake annoyed with Emerson for - as he saw it - hijacking the group for his own projects - he makes a sarcastic comment about the "armadillo with tank tracks" (Tarkus!)
It's great they were in the same band, perhaps not suprising the group burnt out..anyhow I digress; what i would say is that I think being in ELP made Greg Lake (and Keith Emerson) push each other and perform at a higher level...as part of which I do think Greg Lake came up with some great songs.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:35 |
Philrod wrote:
Moogtron III wrote:
Greg Lake's my favourite singer, and I love some of his ballads. I always thought that that was the strength of ELP, the contrast between Emerson's complex stuff and Lake's open, pure sounding ballads.
I like Lucky Man, Still You Turn Me On and the only track on Pictures that was not a Mussorgsky but a Lake tune, was that called The Great Gates Of Kiev? Well, I especially like those tracks. Great singer, great lyricist, great guitar player, great ballad composer.
Time for an applause
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In fact, you're talking about The sage
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Thanks!
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Philrod
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:31 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Greg Lake's my favourite singer, and I love some of his ballads. I always thought that that was the strength of ELP, the contrast between Emerson's complex stuff and Lake's open, pure sounding ballads.
I like Lucky Man, Still You Turn Me On and the only track on Pictures that was not a Mussorgsky but a Lake tune, was that called The Great Gates Of Kiev? Well, I especially like those tracks. Great singer, great lyricist, great guitar player, great ballad composer.
Time for an applause
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In fact, you're talking about The sage
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Philrod
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:30 |
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I mostly adore Greg Lake's ballads, especially The Sage, one of my favourite ELP song!
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Moogtron III
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 16:22 |
Greg Lake's my favourite singer, and I love some of his ballads. I always thought that that was the strength of ELP, the contrast between Emerson's complex stuff and Lake's open, pure sounding ballads.
I like Lucky Man, Still You Turn Me On and the only track on Pictures that was not a Mussorgsky but a Lake tune, was that called The Great Gates Of Kiev? Well, I especially like those tracks. Great singer, great lyricist, great guitar player, great ballad composer.
Time for an applause
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lunaticviolist
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 00:57 |
I like all of Greg Lake's ballads, but Lucky Man is a little lame (the synth is the best part, and the lyrics are impressive considering how young he was.
I love Still...You Turn Me On, and I honestly never thought twice about the Someone get me a ladder line until now!
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The Miracle
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 00:36 |
I like them 
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Logos
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Posted: October 11 2005 at 00:34 |
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What is wrong with the lyric "someone get me a ladder"? |
Joke or not, one has to admit that's not one of the best lyrical lines in the history of prog rock.
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margaret
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:57 |
chopper wrote:
"Jerusalem" a Greg Lake ballad? - somehow I think not.
I'm not a great fan of his stuff on Works Vol 1, but he is a good singer and underrated guitar player.
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you're kinder to his stuff on Works vol 1. than I am. Liked his turn on The Sage. Great vocalist, saddled at times with some crappy lyrics (Still you turn me on  )
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:23 |
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I love every single thing Lake recorded. He's one of my favorite singers. Probably THE voice of prog, IMO. He's also a great guitarist and bassist too.
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Prosciutto
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Posted: October 10 2005 at 21:14 |
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I love all ballads Greg Lake has written with ELP. I think his songs on Works I are my favourites, "From the Beginning" is a great one too, cool moog solo at the end....
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Don't be a prog-hole, please...
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threefates
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:56 |
Well I can tell you that I've loved every ballad and every song Greg has ever sang on... but then you know that already.
You left out "Watching Over You" and "I Believe in Father Christmas" which next to "Lucky Man" was probably his most selling ballad.
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:53 |
Garion81 wrote:
meurglysIII wrote:
I hate the cheesy synth part on Lucky Man , but otherwise it's a decent song |
Call it cheese if you want but that means you didn't understand a couple of things. First it was one of the earliest recording with a moog synth recorded on it and second he did it in one take. Greg lake said that is exactly what I want. Keith never rehearsed or pre wrote the solo for it.
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Had I known that I may have thought better of it. I still prefer Still...You Turn Me On to Lucky Man though.
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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."
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threefates
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:53 |
Poxx wrote:
Rotten, moldy and covered with hair cheesy. Pig feces is like mustard compared to Lake's ballads. If Greg Lake was a movie he'd be 'Catwoman'.
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You evidently need more medication than you're obviously taking... 
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threefates
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:50 |
RaphaelT wrote:
I must admit I like these ballads. Please remember that it was hit single Lucky Man that brought ELP to the top of the charts, so it played vital role in popularization of whole genre (I'm quoting Rockin' The Classics by Edward Macan). It was written by 14 - year old Greg Lake though, and so it sounds infantile (that's why it annoys some ELP fans).
Nevertheless, it would be nice to catch "Still You Turn Me On" or "From The Beginning" on radio on Valentine's Day instead of Britney or Robbie Williams (excuse me for rude language, pardon my Klatchian)
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Actually it was written by a 12 year old Greg Lake.. and I've never found the words to be infantile in the least. That moog solo at the end was just perfect also.. .as was Carl's three ending heart beats....
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threefates
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Posted: August 22 2005 at 23:47 |
richardh wrote:
I'm not sure,but I think the 'someone get me a ladder' line was actually an ''injoke''.(well I hope so anyway) Linda(3 Fates) or someone else please clarify?.. |
Actually Pete Sinfield told me he wrote that in the lyric.. and it was an inside joke. Its also why they called the European portion of the BSS tour.. the "Take a Ladder" tour But in Keith's autobio.. he says he wrote that lyrics... which I had to laugh at.. cause I know that wasn't true...
from the joke:
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