Author |
Topic Search Topic Options
|
chopper
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 13 2005
Location: Essex, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 20031
|
Topic: Ozric Tentacles release Technicians of the Sacred Posted: September 09 2015 at 06:23 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Lately, when I've gone to bed, I've been using this album to doze off to. I never make it to track 2 !! Either it's that blissfully serene and spacey it puts me to sleep, or just boring. I haven't decided. |
I'd go for the former, I find it quite relaxing. DSOTM normally has the same effect on me and I like the album.
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: September 09 2015 at 06:21 |
Lately, when I've gone to bed, I've been using this album to doze off to. I never make it to track 2 !! Either it's that blissfully serene and spacey it puts me to sleep, or just boring. I haven't decided.
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: August 18 2015 at 09:46 |
Looks like everything else they've done. I'll still give it a whirl though. Good band.
I found their set at the 1993/94 (?) Reading festival on Youtube the other day. I was at that show. They were awesome, and Siouxsie & the banshees were on later, so it was a bloody good day.
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: January 22 2009
Location: Magic Theatre
Status: Offline
Points: 23104
|
Posted: August 18 2015 at 07:00 |
Ideedio!
....and while they haven't quite reached the heights of Erpland and Waterfall Cities in the new millenium - I still think they can hold their heads high with this their most recent. I happen to dig the Psytrance ingredient - even if it is on the account of the bass.....but then again that bass isn't doing much anyway. I just had a listen trying to focus on the bottom end of the sound spectrum.
Hey Michael: I listened to Mantric Muse yesterday, and it is indeed a very nice album in the vein of (90s) Ozrics. These days I tend to reach for Hidria Spacefolk if I want some brainmelting psychedelia (that really imo started with Steve Hillage)....oh yes and then Vespero's By The Waters Of Tomorrow. Man that album is great!
Edited by Guldbamsen - August 18 2015 at 07:00
|
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: August 18 2015 at 06:10 |
^ Correct !!
|
|
symphonicman
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 14 2015
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 114
|
Posted: August 18 2015 at 05:30 |
I think Ozric Tentacles were best in the 90's.
|
Master James of St. George. Of the fields and the sky. He used to build castles of stone, steel, and blood. But lines get broken down.
|
|
Skalla-Grim
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 07 2015
Location: Europe
Status: Offline
Points: 305
|
Posted: August 18 2015 at 05:24 |
I don't really understand the criticism. The album is totally enjoyable and has a nice flow to it, more than some of the older albums. Still the OT trademarks are there, the arabic folklore on Epiphlioy for example. By the way Paper Monkeys was also great.
|
|
Roj
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 3126
|
Posted: August 18 2015 at 02:46 |
Well, the Ozrics have always been somewhat homogenous, there's not that much difference between any of their albums really. However they're pretty much always a good listen, depending on my mood. A couple of times the new one has washed over me a bit but generally I'm enjoying it. In fact I enjoy them all, not a turkey amongst them.
Yes I'd agree that ToTS is more electronic than most of their previous releases but definitely not as much as Spirals In Hyperspace - I consider that to be easily their most electronic album. It also has one of my all-time favourite OT tracks, the blissful Oakem.
|
|
AlienD
Forum Newbie
Joined: August 15 2015
Location: Omnipresent
Status: Offline
Points: 1
|
Posted: August 15 2015 at 18:56 |
Re some of the comments above, pretty much agree with Tom Ozric on this one.
Ozrics used to be a lot more interesting and unique than something you could put a generic genre label on, like 'Psytrance'. Compared to the 90's this sounds
quite uninspired and lacking the kind of powerful production they were capable
of. Not surprisingly I didn't like Paper Monkeys or YYT either, but I think this is the weakest album yet.
It's not just that it lacks a solid rhythm section and dynamics, or that it's 'too electronic' (not really how I would put it anyway, and I enjoy plenty of 'electronic' music). The problem is also that the compositions just aren't what they used to be.
There's still some nice atmospheres and fantastic synth layering as you would expect, but the context is so off-putting that I just can't listen to it. Some of the better moments sound too much like re-hashes of what's been done better before.
Edited by AlienD - August 15 2015 at 19:02
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 22:37 |
Y'know, some artists I admire deliver, what I perceive as 'weaker' albums (well, 4626 Comfortzone from Beardfish seems to be an example), but it doesn't bother me coz they never really 'get me' deep inside. Ozrics are (should be these days) a band I expect high quality efforts from, so when they go all 'plastic' on me, I feel like I'm let down. Now, I know Ed doesn't put out sh*t to "please Tom, gotta please Tom"......(I'm a fanboy, I should grow up.....) but this direction of almost pure electronic Ozric is not the side of them I cherish. And the overall production is an over-polished electro-turd. Oh well, still plenty of back-catalogue to enjoy. I even prefer the Lonely Robot album, as commercial as it is. At least there's real drums and real bass on it. And Nick Beggs, somewhere.
|
|
Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 12 2011
Location: Melb, Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 7951
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 21:18 |
You know that shreddy 80's Satriani/Vai-ish (well that's how it sounds to me!) guitar style in the heavier parts of the Ozrics albums has always been the sticking point for me personally, Tom, so I think I much prefer the guitar on the MM disc. Mind you, putting things in perspective, MM have delivered one single album, and the Ozrics many....but WHAT an album
Edited by Aussie-Byrd-Brother - August 01 2015 at 21:19
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 21:09 |
^ Now you're talking. Still, the drums sound a little thin, but at least they're REAL drums. It does have some programmed parts, sometimes these parts are IMPOSSIBLE to play when they're transcribed for 'real' instrumentation, but this, Mantric Muse, also Hidria Spacefolk, really pick up the baton where the OT that means so much to me, left off.
|
|
Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 12 2011
Location: Melb, Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 7951
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 21:01 |
Well, Tom, we can always fall back on THIS little beauty (matter of fact, I'm spinning it right now! ), the Ozrics sound done right, and better than anything they've done since `The Hidden Step'...and probably worthy of praise as much as the classic Ozrics albums?
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 18:24 |
^ Well, maybe too modern. Cast your thoughts to Waterfall Cities. Superb album. Only 2 full band tracks (Coily and Sultana Detrii), the rest, mostly programmed. Check out the fake-bass in Spiralmind, and the title-track is just bliss. This had those trance/techno/ravey elements working to their strengths. It had 'soul'. TotS has all human quality sucked out of it, something like music of the future, programmed by robots and computers which have been programmed by robots and other computers. I don't hate the album. I don't really enjoy it, either. It's frustrating. And like I mentioned earlier, Paper Monkeys, though being one of the lowest rated OT albums here, is way better. Why Ed included his family on TotS, other than to get familiar with the material for live performance, escapes me.
|
|
Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 12 2011
Location: Melb, Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 7951
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 18:00 |
Maybe that's the problem for you, Tom....the Ozrics `project' (let's just call it that) have moved on well and truly from that fusion of sounds of the earlier albums. We really should have seen this coming. It's gradually been evolving into a more electronic project for some time now, for better or worse, depending on your music tastes - I'm going with MUCH WORSE in your opinion! Yes, in many ways it's a shame, but I think there's still plenty that captures the true Ozrics sound in it, and they haven't sounded so modern and focused for some time.
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 17:54 |
^^ Sorry - I disagree. TotS is an Ed Wynne solo, every note on this album could be done by Ed himself, and very much sounds like it. There's very little 'band' on this release. Sure, they're probably still the quintessential Space-Prog act on stage, but in the studio...... Maybe I have cotton-wool in my ears, but it mostly sounds like fake-bass and programmed drums/percussion to me. And that fact rubs me the wrong way. Perhaps if it was offered as " Debut solo album from Ozric mastermind " I'd view it differently, but this is supposedly a collective. I don't hear team spirit on this album........ And now I'm going to spin Sl*g Tanz, where I can hear REAL drums and REAL bass.......
|
|
Man With Hat
Collaborator
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166183
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 17:39 |
If I had a complaint about TOTS it's that it's a little mellow for my tastes. I'd like a few more sections to go to 11, so to speak. But it's minor complaint. It's still very good, clearly realized, and technically proficient. I'm not sure where I'd put it in their oeuvre...probably mid pack, but that'smore on the strength of their other material than any weakness in this one.
|
Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
|
|
Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: October 12 2011
Location: Melb, Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 7951
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 17:28 |
See, I'm with Dave on this one, who spot on mentions the `Psytrance' tag. It's a style of electronic music that can be very hit and miss, but I think the Ozrics mostly got it right on this one. Sure enough the album is way too long, but to me it takes the best of the electronic elements of their albums from `Waterfall Cities' onwards, and I like that the first disc eases up on that shreddy electric guitar. A mix of world and electronic elements that sounds like the past and future...or something like that! I think it's their most inspired, vibrant and determined to impress work in years, certainly their best since `The Hidden Step'.
|
|
Tom Ozric
Prog Reviewer
Joined: September 03 2005
Location: Olympus Mons
Status: Offline
Points: 15926
|
Posted: August 01 2015 at 17:18 |
I spun Tantric Obstacles, which dates from 1985. Utterly brilliant, inspired stuff, powerful enough to re-arrange the order of the universe. Well, that's how it sounded after Technicians....... Also spun Paper Monkeys, and it too, is much more enjoyable than Technicians. HAD there been a more prominent rhythm section - chunky bass guitar and drum kit, Technicians would be a helluva lot better. Imagine what Zia and Merv could've added to this work ?? So, the compositions themselves aren't bad, Ed knows what he's doing, but I find it all very synthetic with too little input from the other members.
|
|
Roj
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Manchester, UK
Status: Offline
Points: 3126
|
Posted: July 29 2015 at 06:37 |
The track you mentioned Epiphlioy sticks in my memory as being my favourite on first listen. I'll report back here friday after another coupla listens
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.