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progbethyname 
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 Posted: November 11 2013 at 19:33 |
 The.Crimson.King wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
i really have a hard time listening to prog albums on the first go, and i don't want to listen to it like 2-3 times straight the get the idea right? another reason is because im 14 and i can't listen to this stuff due to the crappy hip hop other kids are playin ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!! so basically, MY DAMN EARS prefer that crap over this, which sucks like f**k. |
Ah yes, the challenge of being a teenage prog fan! When I got into prog at age 15 everyone around me was blasting Peter Frampton from 8-track tape players...gag! Don't despair Michael, keep that prog flame alive in your head and your ears will lead you to the promised land. <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Keep fighting that good prog fight </span>  |
A challenge indeed! I'm 32 and I still get made fun off for adoring my Prog, especially by my friends. A lot of them don't understand how with Prog, you have to be patient and keep an open mind. If I try and share a song with most people I know, they get pretty alarmed when they hear that a song is over 10min...sadly.
Anyway. Micheal and King you are not alone.
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Michael678
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Posted: November 11 2013 at 18:37 |
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Michael678 wrote:
i really have a hard time listening to prog albums on the first go, and i don't want to listen to it like 2-3 times straight the get the idea right? another reason is because im 14 and i can't listen to this stuff due to the crappy hip hop other kids are playin ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!! so basically, MY DAMN EARS prefer that crap over this, which sucks like f**k. |
Ah yes, the challenge of being a teenage prog fan! When I got into prog at age 15 everyone around me was blasting Peter Frampton from 8-track tape players...gag! Don't despair Michael, keep that prog flame alive in your head and your ears will lead you to the promised land. Keep fighting that good prog fight |
thx for the encouragement dude!
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: November 11 2013 at 16:10 |
Michael678 wrote:
i really have a hard time listening to prog albums on the first go, and i don't want to listen to it like 2-3 times straight the get the idea right? another reason is because im 14 and i can't listen to this stuff due to the crappy hip hop other kids are playin ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!! so basically, MY DAMN EARS prefer that crap over this, which sucks like f**k. |
Ah yes, the challenge of being a teenage prog fan! When I got into prog at age 15 everyone around me was blasting Peter Frampton from 8-track tape players...gag! Don't despair Michael, keep that prog flame alive in your head and your ears will lead you to the promised land. Keep fighting that good prog fight
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Michael678
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Posted: November 11 2013 at 06:40 |
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i really have a hard time listening to prog albums on the first go, and i don't want to listen to it like 2-3 times straight the get the idea right? another reason is because im 14 and i can't listen to this stuff due to the crappy hip hop other kids are playin ALL THE DAMN TIME!!!! so basically, MY DAMN EARS prefer that crap over this, which sucks like f**k.
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Donny Doom
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Posted: November 11 2013 at 02:46 |
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I listen to my music through a Behringer 100 Watt Power Mixer,2 JBL 2x15 1x1 Horn PA Cabinets,2 Powered Behringer 2 way Digital Studio Monitor Speakers,1 Technics multi disc player & some times I run my laptop through my PA system.
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theandies
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Posted: October 01 2013 at 14:56 |
I have some old Electro Voice speakers and a Panasonic amp with a cheap CD player that I use when I'm in my basement.
Lately I've just been using either my computer, tablet or smartphone and listening to MP3's with my Bose Ear buds. I've converted my whole music collection to MP3's and I used the highest sampling rate possible. The sampling rate and Bose ear buds make all the difference in the world. I used some Skull Candy buds but they kept breaking. I sprung for the Bose ($99) and man what a difference.
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AnonymousLoner
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Posted: September 13 2013 at 17:31 |
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I have some pretty solid speakers hooked up to my laptop which I usually use to blast music at an excessively loud volume. As if I care about what the neighbors might think.
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination, and life to everything."
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Catcher10
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Posted: September 13 2013 at 17:22 |
I have a few 24/96 and 24/192 albums and really don't hear much difference either compared to standard redbook CD 16/44.1 I do not buy anymore of those hi-rez albums as they are too expensive.....There are some articles written by engineers and such that claim 96 and 192 are a waste and actually detract from the music. I myself am perfectly happy with CD redbook
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progbethyname
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Posted: September 05 2013 at 17:39 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Polo wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Polo wrote:
I have a pair of Grado SR60's. Been thinking about getting a headphone amplifier with an USB DAC but I have no idea of how significant the change in sound quality would be. |
It all depends on what you have now, if it will be an improvement or not. How do you listen thru the Grado's now? |
Straight into my computer's audio out. |
Thanks for the answer....You can simply get a USB DAC that will improve the sound of your files playing off your laptop. There are headphone amps you can get, but I see some rave reviews for these USB DACs. For example the Dragonfly USB DAC I thinks sells for about US$250 simply plugs into a USB port and you plug the HP into the Dragonfly. It will play all music files from mp3 to full resolution and standard red book 16/44.1, I understand sounds really nice. If you have hi-resolution files like 24/96, apperently is super nice, it will also play 24/192 but will down sample them to 24/96, I don't think that is a problem at all. You can also plug in powered speakers or direct to a stereo system for better audio sound from your laptop. I think if you just search for USB DACs you may find other price options....If thru headphones is the only way you listen then it is your decision how and what you spend to make your music sound as best that you can afford. Becareful...I suspect a DAC like this Dragonfly will make you want to upgrade your Grado's  Have fun and enjoy!
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I gotta be honest. I don't hear any difference in audio quality when it comes to digital bitstream formats in 24/96k compared to 24/192k. I really can't. I've done the test through the proper equipment I have and I find nothing...absolutely nothing. No frequency clearance difference, no white or pink noise difference...nothing.
How about man? Do you hear anything difference? ;)
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deafmoon
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Posted: September 05 2013 at 13:54 |
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My Music is predominatly digital going through my PC and output is either my Audio Engine 2 speakers or for quiet I go through Bose headphones. I don't love Bose, but they are noise cancelling, so I can escape the real world nicely. But there are far better headphones out there that are crystal clear. Also, if you have a newer PC look into the Dragonfly to run either your speakers or headphones through, they are supposed to be amazing.
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Mavericks
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Posted: August 21 2013 at 06:32 |
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I used to listen to music using my laptop, I have plugged a subwoofer system to it and the sound is awesome.
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 13:06 |
Polo wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Polo wrote:
I have a pair of Grado SR60's. Been thinking about getting a headphone amplifier with an USB DAC but I have no idea of how significant the change in sound quality would be. |
It all depends on what you have now, if it will be an improvement or not. How do you listen thru the Grado's now? |
Straight into my computer's audio out. |
Thanks for the answer....You can simply get a USB DAC that will improve the sound of your files playing off your laptop. There are headphone amps you can get, but I see some rave reviews for these USB DACs. For example the Dragonfly USB DAC I thinks sells for about US$250 simply plugs into a USB port and you plug the HP into the Dragonfly. It will play all music files from mp3 to full resolution and standard red book 16/44.1, I understand sounds really nice. If you have hi-resolution files like 24/96, apperently is super nice, it will also play 24/192 but will down sample them to 24/96, I don't think that is a problem at all.
You can also plug in powered speakers or direct to a stereo system for better audio sound from your laptop. I think if you just search for USB DACs you may find other price options....If thru headphones is the only way you listen then it is your decision how and what you spend to make your music sound as best that you can afford. Becareful...I suspect a DAC like this Dragonfly will make you want to upgrade your Grado's Have fun and enjoy!
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Dean
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Posted: August 14 2013 at 01:26 |
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 20:47 |
Polo wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
Polo wrote:
I have a pair of Grado SR60's. Been thinking about getting a headphone amplifier with an USB DAC but I have no idea of how significant the change in sound quality would be. |
It all depends on what you have now, if it will be an improvement or not. How do you listen thru the Grado's now? |
Straight into my computer's audio out.
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Spending more on a USB DAC and Amp than your headphones cost to make the headphones sound better... okay.... I think you need a better reason. |
Is cost really essentially proportional to quality? The sound of my headphones is significantly better than the $300 Bose headphones I used before. |
Hey. Be careful there. The Grado SR60's don't require a lot amperage to run/sound properly or till their fullest.
Those Grado models are less than 100OHM's, so the impedance level is not that high.
If you have a scent stereo system you can listen to them through that just fine. Listen, I've got the sennheiser Hd 800's and they are a whopping 300ohms and I use my stereo amp to listen to them and that does the job big time! It produces more than enough power. I can't put it at the highest Volume cause it's way to freakin loud even ten volume levels below the max. ;)
All in all though, DACS/portable Amps are great if you travel a lot and want to carry that high FI sound with you everywhere you go. Don't overspend!!! It's not worth it. Spend 150$ max, especially for that headphone model you carry. :)
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Dean
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 11:20 |
Polo wrote:
Dean wrote:
Spending more on a USB DAC and Amp than your headphones cost to make the headphones sound better... okay.... I think you need a better reason. |
Is cost really essentially proportional to quality? The sound of my headphones is significantly better than the $300 Bose headphones I used before. |
No it isn't (and that's something I've stressed many times), but when I made that quip I wasn't aware you were refering to plugging them into a PC output, I assumed you were using them with an an mp3 player at least.
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 11:14 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Polo wrote:
I have a pair of Grado SR60's. Been thinking about getting a headphone amplifier with an USB DAC but I have no idea of how significant the change in sound quality would be. |
It all depends on what you have now, if it will be an improvement or not. How do you listen thru the Grado's now? |
Straight into my computer's audio out.
Dean wrote:
Spending more on a USB DAC and Amp than your headphones cost to make the headphones sound better... okay.... I think you need a better reason. |
Is cost really essentially proportional to quality? The sound of my headphones is significantly better than the $300 Bose headphones I used before.
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Dean
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 10:12 |
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Spending more on a USB DAC and Amp than your headphones cost to make the headphones sound better... okay.... I think you need a better reason.
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 13 2013 at 09:48 |
Polo wrote:
I have a pair of Grado SR60's. Been thinking about getting a headphone amplifier with an USB DAC but I have no idea of how significant the change in sound quality would be. |
It all depends on what you have now, if it will be an improvement or not. How do you listen thru the Grado's now?
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 12:57 |
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I have a pair of Grado SR60's. Been thinking about getting a headphone amplifier with an USB DAC but I have no idea of how significant the change in sound quality would be.
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Posted: August 12 2013 at 11:53 |
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