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Poll Question: Which one is your favorite junior effort
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^ You are not looking like you are ... what?

Anyway, I've made my point clear about rubbing your opinion in our faces. My whole idea was that it just wasn't necessary to start three-four threads with that. This is a people's forum. Yes, you don't like KC and Fripp; we get it. I don't like In the Wake of Poseidon, but I don't go about the forum, shouting it in every thread. 


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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Yeah, but you have to have to have to have to have to have to hold some criticism in check. Some things are better left unsaid. You don't see me dancin'-n'-prancin' 'round, going "Rush blows four characters", do you?

you can say whatever you want about any artist. Plus, My opinions should be of no importance to you
Then don't make them look like they are, like you did in the OP. Everyone's opinion is of equal importance. No need to rub it in with several threads.

I'm not looking like I am Stern Smile And my opinion should be of no importance, who cares what I have to say. If the majority of people like a certain band then they like a band
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Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Yeah, but you have to have to have to have to have to have to hold some criticism in check. Some things are better left unsaid. You don't see me dancin'-n'-prancin' 'round, going "Rush blows four characters", do you?

you can say whatever you want about any artist. Plus, My opinions should be of no importance to you
Then don't make them look like they are, like you did in the OP. Everyone's opinion is of equal importance. No need to rub it in with several threads.
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

god, progmetaller, I truly hate your opinions on KC :P

The Yes Album for me here, I dig the other two but their not on the same tier for me, although Lizard comes close. But Yes Album is my favorite Yes record.

god, progmetaller, I truly hate your opinions on KC :P 

can i ask why????
I don't think Mr. Sumdeus chose the right words. I think what he meant was that he hates your guts. And nobody around here likes anybody else's guts, especially when it comes down to arrogance and mockery of somebody else's favorite band/artist. Stern Smile Plus, I don't understand the purpose of your condescending quote.
 
If you (or anyone else) can't put up with honest opinions which are critical of your favourite band, I respectfully suggest that you don't visit the site. No band has a monopoly on admiration. I also do not like King Crimson's music at all and will say so whenever the issue arises if I feel it to be appropriate. Noone on here has the right to censor the views of others. I've recently seen reviews of some Steve Hackett albums (and others) with which I have disagreed vehemently, but you cannot pick and choose the taste of those who post. Tastes differ; live with it.
 
What IS unacceptable is to descend into personal abuse of someone over their musical taste; anyone who lowers themselves to that level has no place here.
I understand that and I agree with everything you said, but none of it has to do with what I was meaning to deliver. It's one thing to say something. How you say it as another thing. What I was trying to deliver here is that it's never a good idea to rub attitude against other people. Again, some things are better left unsaid. There is absolutely no need to rub it in with a multitude of threads and force people to tolerate it.

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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Yeah, but you have to have to have to have to have to have to hold some criticism in check. Some things are better left unsaid. You don't see me dancin'-n'-prancin' 'round, going "Rush blows four characters", do you?

you can say whatever you want about any artist. Plus, My opinions should be of no importance to you
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^ Yeah, but you have to have to have to have to have to have to hold some criticism in check. Some things are better left unsaid. You don't see me dancin'-n'-prancin' 'round, going "Rush blows four characters", do you?

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Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

I don't think Mr. Sumdeus chose the right words. I think what he meant was that he hates your guts. And nobody around here likes anybody else's guts, especially when it comes down to arrogance and mockery of somebody else's favorite band/artist. Stern Smile Plus, I don't understand the purpose of your condescending quote.


nah I truly meant his opinions, just something about this part of the OP made me lol

"Cirkus-***** 5 Stars Great Song
Indoor Games(feat, Stewie Griffin)** Off beat guitars and instruments are lame
Happy Family** sound the same as Indoor Games
Lady Of The Dancing Water***** another great song
Lizard*** fails as an epic"

I dunno, just find it really comical to imagine someone writing off something like Indoor Games as "off beat instruments are lame" or Lizard as simply "fails as an epic", whatever that mean. it reminds me of those reviews you find every once in a while where you just feel like the person listening was just searching for any possible reason to dislike something, like a doom metal review that starts with "i never 'got' doom metal or why they play slow"

@Hercules I don't think Dayvenkirq is upset that someone doesn't like KC, pretty sure his issue is with progmetaller's condescending attitude

But that's how I hear the music and I'm not gonna hold it back. I'm gonna lett loose the criticism no matter who the artist isStern Smile
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Tough choice between Nursery Cryme and The Yes Album, both of which are stellar albums that are among the respective band's best. Both are of consistently high quality, yet with a few obvious highlights, and both show a band in the process of forming their sound. I've been in a Yes mood lately, so I'll give the edge to TYA. As for Lizard, I never liked it, and although my stance has softened on it (I enjoy "Cirkus" and "Lady of the Dancing Water"), I fear that will never change.
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Three gems!

In order of preference:

Nursery Cryme
Lizard
The Yes album
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Long live the mighty Lizard, but I also like Nursery Cryme very much and the Yes album is the only album I listen to from that band.
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Originally posted by Eärendil Eärendil wrote:

I've always loved The Yes Album.  I personally like it second behind CTTE from Yes' discography.


I agree on both parts.
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Nursery Cryme just a bit ahead of The Yes Album.
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

I don't think Mr. Sumdeus chose the right words. I think what he meant was that he hates your guts. And nobody around here likes anybody else's guts, especially when it comes down to arrogance and mockery of somebody else's favorite band/artist. Stern Smile Plus, I don't understand the purpose of your condescending quote.


nah I truly meant his opinions, just something about this part of the OP made me lol

"Cirkus-***** 5 Stars Great Song
Indoor Games(feat, Stewie Griffin)** Off beat guitars and instruments are lame
Happy Family** sound the same as Indoor Games
Lady Of The Dancing Water***** another great song
Lizard*** fails as an epic"

I dunno, just find it really comical to imagine someone writing off something like Indoor Games as "off beat instruments are lame" or Lizard as simply "fails as an epic", whatever that mean. it reminds me of those reviews you find every once in a while where you just feel like the person listening was just searching for any possible reason to dislike something, like a doom metal review that starts with "i never 'got' doom metal or why they play slow"

@Hercules I don't think Dayvenkirq is upset that someone doesn't like KC, pretty sure his issue is with progmetaller's condescending attitude


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Nursery Cryme, but I do like Lizard!
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Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

god, progmetaller, I truly hate your opinions on KC :P

The Yes Album for me here, I dig the other two but their not on the same tier for me, although Lizard comes close. But Yes Album is my favorite Yes record.

god, progmetaller, I truly hate your opinions on KC :P 

can i ask why????
I don't think Mr. Sumdeus chose the right words. I think what he meant was that he hates your guts. And nobody around here likes anybody else's guts, especially when it comes down to arrogance and mockery of somebody else's favorite band/artist. Stern Smile Plus, I don't understand the purpose of your condescending quote.
 
If you (or anyone else) can't put up with honest opinions which are critical of your favourite band, I respectfully suggest that you don't visit the site. No band has a monopoly on admiration. I also do not like King Crimson's music at all and will say so whenever the issue arises if I feel it to be appropriate. Noone on here has the right to censor the views of others. I've recently seen reviews of some Steve Hackett albums (and others) with which I have disagreed vehemently, but you cannot pick and choose the taste of those who post. Tastes differ; live with it.
 
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nursery crimes just barely beats out lizard for me. fountain is possibly my favorite song ever. 

i don't really like yes album.... 
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The Yes Album by a mile.
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Lizard (the epic) is the best song out of these albums, but overall album against album I'll go with TYA, It is more consistent. I always thought Indoor Games and Happy Family brings Lizard down a bit, but also unlike TYA no other album sounds like Lizard. So Lizard is much more special but TYA is better.
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