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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 05:41
The definition of pop has changed so much I don't think it means anything at this point, if not young and barely dressed "celebrities" disguised as musicians.

Not that "pop" has ever been a real genre, everything from Frank Sinatra to the Beach Boys and late Genesis have been called pop at some point, so I guess it's more of something that has to do with popularity.

And popular music is terrible, at the moment. The time of The Carpenters, Mamas and Papas and others topping all charts have passed, now thanks to the internet radio and TV play are unnecessary and the only popular acts are those worshipped by people in their young to mid teens. The songs you hear everywhere aren't necessarily the most popular, they're just the ones the labels are feeding to the masses. With the internet, everyone can listen to punk rock or noise or prog, it's not really a matter of being part of a subculture or going to obscure music shops anymore. So the only listeners labels can aspire to are those more susceptible to influence and brainwashing because they're usually left to rot their brains in front of TV and Facebook: teenagers. And people wonder why talentless Autotune users get popular? Because it's not difficult to influence someone who's maturing and doesn't know what to do with his or her hormones. And that's a messed up thing to do to because it gives them bad examples.

Let me make an example: there was this girl who did Hannah Montana or some show like that. Let's say two parents are too busy to look after their daughter and leave her in front of Disney Channel, and let her watch this Hannah Montana TV show. Let's see this girl is a 12 year old child and let's say three years have passed, now she's 15 and Hannah Montana is grinding her intimate parts against various males on MTV. What example do you think that would possibly give? Especially now that she's maturing physically and feels so confused inside. What has music to do with that?

Same thing with male teenagers seeing those pumped meat bags swearing around and dry humping "ghetto" girls.

Or that lady *a*a (I will not pronounce her name), you always hear about how much she cares about "different" people and how she teaches teenagers to be themselves. But she had tons of plastic surgery! That's hypocrisy at best.

I haven't watched TV in years and I'm aware of all those things. Why? I don't know, probably my experience on the internet and in real life. But I know for a fact that pop music is an absolute disgrace today.

Pop music is an absolute disaster because it's not about the music anymore, it's about the corporations pushing their creepy agendas. In the internet age, labels should become irrelevant. They know that and do these dirty tricks to stick around. I'm not saying you should be a hipster and listen to obscure music exclusively, just avoid packaged music.

It's obvious that teenagers need some kind of "rebel" to identify with, like Buddy Holly or James Dean or Dee Dee Ramone. But those working from the labels aren't rebels at all, they're just doing what the label tells them to do. A disgrace to humanity.

The same applies to the "indie" fad that many major labels are pushing. It works like this: they buy a small label (usually called "indie"), they promote its artists and then pretend said musicians are still working for a small label, while said artists are making six figures a year. An example? Crystal Castles is signed to Fiction Records, which is owned by Polydor which is a subsidiary of Universal. And Crystal Castles fans act like annoying "indie" hipsters all the time. That's another fad I hope will die.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 05:17
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

 
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

It seems some stuff used to get commercial success because the music was genuinely good.

I disagree with this statement. 
Big surprise there.
 
Anyhow, a couple of years back when Coldplay hit their pop heights the mainstream media continually describe them as innovative.  Lady GaGa is almost always described as innovative, as is Kanye West.  I suppose that whether any of these artists is good is a matter of personal taste, and whether they trully are innovative, or if they're just "different than the usual" I couldn't really say.  Fringe popular bands like Muse and Radiohead might fit the bill, but again, level of innovation and quality of goodness are up for debate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 03:53
 
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

It seems some stuff used to get commercial success because the music was genuinely good.

I disagree with this statement. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2011 at 01:38
i like Cee Lo Green's - "F*ck You" . it's really catchy and of course the chorus. it's got a little 60's/70's soul feel too with a sweet little bass solo to it, but it's a cool popular song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 17 2011 at 23:13
Frankly I don't pay attention to it.  But you dial it back a bit and there was a magical time when there was some pretty cool things going on.  It seems some stuff used to get commercial success because the music was genuinely good.  No point in a poll because I'm guessing the overwhelming answer would be no. But maybe there are some gems out there.


Edited by Slartibartfast - January 17 2011 at 23:15
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