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Posted: March 20 2010 at 13:24
Yes, brilliant musicianship in the studio, but what about the mind-blowing live performances? One of those pretty rare occasions where the showmanship blended beautifully with the showmanship. Heck, like someone put it quite nicely once, they'd go as far as a 'look mom, no hands!' type of performance. This attitude is hard to digest for many, but I love it!
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 10:33
I like Emerson, Lake and Palmer. Nice blend of vocals, guitars, keyboards and drums. A first-rate prog band by any standards. The first to do many of the things other prog bands are now doing. Pioneers. Showmen. Innovators. The hell with the critics.
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 10:08
ExittheLemming wrote:
Yep, although I'm not a massive Lake fan I do admit that his vocal texture on both King Crimson and ELP almost defines the genre for those who have have maybe only heard the radio friendly stuff. It also seems clear to me that without Greg's erm...'populist hook' that softened the technical maelstrom of Keith and Carl, in all probability ELP might have folded after just 2 albums ?
for all the bitchin about how 'short' ELP's creative lifespan was... you are right... in reality it is amazing it lasted as long as it did.
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Yep, although I'm not a massive Lake fan I do admit that his vocal texture on both King Crimson and ELP almost defines the genre for those who have have maybe only heard the radio friendly stuff. It also seems clear to me that without Greg's erm...'populist hook' that softened the technical maelstrom of Keith and Carl, in all probability ELP might have folded after just 2 albums ?
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 09:25
ExittheLemming wrote:
micky wrote:
O666 wrote:
I am one of ELP fans. I dont want explain about my opinion. If you want talk about ELP you MUST listen to " Tarkus" first. I think you MUST listen to ELP version and Jordan Rudess version of Tarkus and compare these then you can find : Why ELP is one of prog legends.
or hear LaBrie take a flamethrower to Tarkus (battlefield) as well.....
Indeed, I think 'Jimmy the Cheese' is captured for posterity massacring this anti-war paean of Tarkus on the ELP tribute album Encores, Legends & Paradox. He sounds like Glen Hughes after a 'south of the waist only' Brazilian to my ears.
amen to that..... I won't say it is lost in all the drivel about ELP's pretention.. armadillo tanks and jaw dropping skills but it is definitely underplayed.... is the fact that Greg Lake had one of best voices in all of rock. Capable of touching your heart with the occasional ELP 'ballad' or getting mean and nasty when he breaks out the 'angry' Lake vocals on gems like Knife's Edge or Time and a Place. For everything about the music... and the instrumentalists... the voice is one.. and often is the most up-front.. and Greg Lake was without a doubt one of the finest vocalists rock music ever saw. One that many outside of the fishbowl of PA's recognize.
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
I am one of ELP fans. I dont want explain about my opinion. If you want talk about ELP you MUST listen to " Tarkus" first. I think you MUST listen to ELP version and Jordan Rudess version of Tarkus and compare these then you can find : Why ELP is one of prog legends.
or hear LaBrie take a flamethrower to Tarkus (battlefield) as well.....
Indeed, I think 'Jimmy the Cheese' is captured for posterity massacring this anti-war paean of Tarkus on the ELP tribute album Encores, Legends & Paradox. He sounds like Glen Hughes after a 'south of the waist only' Brazilian to my ears.
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 08:38
O666 wrote:
I am one of ELP fans. I dont want explain about my opinion. If you want talk about ELP you MUST listen to " Tarkus" first. I think you MUST listen to ELP version and Jordan Rudess version of Tarkus and compare these then you can find : Why ELP is one of prog legends.
or hear LaBrie take a flamethrower to Tarkus (battlefield) as well.....
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Posted: March 20 2010 at 08:37
O666 wrote:
I am one of ELP fans. I dont want explain about my opinion. If you want talk about ELP you MUST listen to " Tarkus" first. I think you MUST listen to ELP version and Jordan Rudess version of Tarkus and compare these then you can find : Why ELP is one of prog legends.
Indeed Jordan Rudess has a lot to learn from Keith. One of those sad cases of a guy who has all the technique and more but fails to produce really good music. And I have to say, I like much of his work with DT and with Petrucci in Liquid Tension Experiment, but in general he is nowhere in terms of musical composition and sensitivity compared to King Keith.
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Posted: March 19 2010 at 06:13
I am one of ELP fans. I dont want explain about my opinion. If you want talk about ELP you MUST listen to " Tarkus" first. I think you MUST listen to ELP version and Jordan Rudess version of Tarkus and compare these then you can find : Why ELP is one of prog legends.
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Posted: March 18 2010 at 06:11
Agreed ! ELP really were on their game through Brain Salad Surgery, and back in the day they were number one on my chart ! The long wait ( at the time ) until Works 1 was excruciating, so upon it's release I really embraced it as an exiting change with it's variety of style and new sound. Though in hindsight it's obvious that they were actually running out of ideas and inspiration. Still, I've followed them since then, and now and again see glimpses of former glory in whatever the band or it's component players have produced. Still, I wait for one grand, final conceptual prog masterpiece from them...perhaps it's my luxury to hang on to such an unlikely happening.
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Considering that ELP produced the debut, Tarkus, Pictures at an Exhibition, Trilogy and Brain Salad Surgery within the space of THREE YEARS dammit, they deserve mammoth kudos for such an enduring body of work that even today for me, is an unimpeachable creative peak that not even Yes, Crimson, Genesis, Tull, Floyd etc can match.
Genesis took 4 years and 5 albums to get to Selling England by the Pound (and one of of those is a complete diaper burrito plus I think large swathes of Trespass is borderline juvenilia) Yes did 5 albums in 3 years but only hit their prog stride on The Yes Album.
No other prog giant had ELP's sustained level of innovative brilliance from 70 to 74. I do concede that their albums do contain some weaker material (Three Fates/Are You Ready Eddy ?/Jeremy Bender/Nutrocker) but why do some persist in the spurious fantasy that Genesis, Tull, Yes, Crimson and Floyd all consistently made albums where there were no weaker tracks to be seen anywhere ?
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Posted: March 17 2010 at 06:46
richardh wrote:
Alberto Muņoz wrote:
Gerinski wrote:
I might say that the term "Supergroup" was coined for ELP. The other supergroups just followed.
Aren't that term wasn't for Blind Faith??
I think you are right although Blind Faith didn't last long so ELP ended up 'owning' this description.I doubt too many now remember Blind Faith tbh.
Micky and I do, and we both love their only album (with the exception of that overlong drum solo at the end). Pity they didn't last long, though I'm not complaining about ELP taking their place!
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Posted: March 16 2010 at 09:28
ELP was a great band, and one of the most important Progressive bands. John Collinge of Progression magazine includes them in the "Big Six" prog bands opf all times, and I agree with him, ELP's music is timelss and their sound was quite unique and influential.
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Posted: March 16 2010 at 02:46
Gerinski wrote:
richardh wrote:
Although one of my favourite bands I do think there is a massive Genesis bias on this website with many preferring the calm preciseness of Banks to the energy of Emerson. Ok fair enough as its a matter of taste but I think it does mean their albums are a bit overated.SEBTP has some dull stuff particularly More Fool Me,The BAttle Of Epping Forest and I know what I Like yet people complain about Benny The Bouncer which is a whole ..ermmm..2 minutes NOT the interminable ten minutes or whatever of Battle Of Epping Forest.Oh well.
Oeps... Obviously I meant "More Fool Me" for SEBTP and not "Mad Mad Moon".
My only discrepancy is that I quite like The Battle Of Epping Forest
I enjoyed Battle Of Epping Forest for about 4-5 plays then the novelty just wore of.I know its meant to be fun but it just goes on too long(IMO). I have to admit I also rated SEBTP 5 stars although I will have to go back and read my own review to understand why
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). Pity they didn't last long, though I'm not complaining about ELP taking their place!
