DT Fanboys

King of Loss wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: threefates wrote: I understand exactly where V is coming from... because I happen to think that everything ELP has done is perfect... and I know for sure nobody else here does...  Even the imperfect stuff, they do perfectly... But it doesn't matter to me!  Everything? Now now now we all know what happened with ELP is unacceptable

so sad .  I really liked them.  From 1970-1974 they really were among the best.

threefates wrote: I understand exactly where V is coming from... because I happen to think that everything ELP has done is perfect... and I know for sure nobody else here does...  Even the imperfect stuff, they do perfectly... But it doesn't matter to me!

Everything?

Valarius wrote: I'm saying they're perfect to me. It ends at that. You could say the Guitarist from Jethro Tull is perfect... doesn't mean everyone agrees with you. In my eyes, DREAM THEATER ARE THE GREATEST BAND EVER! THEY ARE FLAWLESS! Some will disagree, but that is what I believe. It is my opinion.

But do you go into an album knowing it will be 5 stars before you even listen just because it is Dream Theater?  That is what it sounds like.  If they are flawless they will never make a bad record so why bother even critiquing you already know the review.

I'm saying they're perfect to me. It ends at that.

You could say the Guitarist from Jethro Tull is perfect... doesn't mean everyone agrees with you.

In my eyes, DREAM THEATER ARE THE GREATEST BAND EVER! THEY ARE FLAWLESS!

Some will disagree, but that is what I believe. It is my opinion.

NetsNJFan wrote: I just think you're being silly. Humans are not perfect. Therefore how could dream theater be perfect?  I've never come across any band that was perfect so maybe I'm to strict in my rating.

Because it's all opinion... I think they're perfect, because I love every song of theres. Doesn't mean they are perfect. They just are to me.

Anyway, I'm not fighting with you... I'm enjoying this. This is a good discussion.

NetsNJFan wrote: Valarius wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: At Least ELP fanatics admit ELP wasn't perfect perfect.  It woudl be nice if DT fans would do the same for DT. So if a Dream Theater fan doesn't say "Dream Theater is my favourite band but I'll admit they're not perfect" then they're ignorant? YES!  Unless the band has Beethoven on keyboards they aren't perfect!  Every band has imperfections!

Imperfection is a subject of opinion.

I think Dream Theater are perfect in every way. That's my opinion. Does that make me ignorant?

Valarius wrote: NetsNJFan wrote: At Least ELP fanatics admit ELP wasn't perfect perfect.  It woudl be nice if DT fans would do the same for DT. So if a Dream Theater fan doesn't say "Dream Theater is my favourite band but I'll admit they're not perfect" then they're ignorant?

YES!  Unless the band has Beethoven on keyboards they aren't perfect!  Every band has imperfections!

Borealis wrote: The problem about DT fans is that they only know DT. If someone knows ELP, Yes, and all and he still perfer DT and give a 5 stars rating, that's nice. No problem. But I really doubt thoses like the one quoted in the first post know al least 5 other prog bands.

So what? If someone only knows Dream Theater and decides to rate their albums five stars, that's their choice.

It's not like... "yeah, you may be a DT fan, but you don't know anything about music until you know Yes, ELP, Genesis and Marillion are better..."

Certif1ed wrote: there are weaknesses in DT's music, you know

BLASPHEMY!

Anyhow, I totally understand what you mean... It's really awkward because I totally agree with you, but I also disagree with you.

As I've said, I'd proudly give every Dream Theater album five stars. And yes I do know every song and yes I love every song. If I wanted to write a review and got lazy, I would give a quick five stars and a few lines about why it's good.

Now, I understand what you mean about feeling cheated and stuff, but I feel if someone likes an album and gives it five stars with a very brief comment, that should be good enough. As this is the persons review of the album and it doesn't have to be a huge lecture. At the end of the day you could have ten DT fans give "Awake" five stars with a brief comment with no consideratin... you could hear the album and think it's crap... but who's to blame?

Not you. Not the reviewers.

It's all about personal taste.

(Although I guess you're the one who loses out with the money. )

Peace.

NetsNJFan wrote: At Least ELP fanatics admit ELP wasn't perfect perfect.  It woudl be nice if DT fans would do the same for DT.

So if a Dream Theater fan doesn't say "Dream Theater is my favourite band but I'll admit they're not perfect" then they're ignorant?