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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: November 11 2007 at 18:53 |
They are the icons of AOR, that disqualifies them, it's just better POP than the average but nothing more, no way they should be added.
Iván
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cynthiasmallet
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 18:49 |
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Having listened more closely to their works, i retract the s**t flinging comment from earlier this evening. However, I still don't think that they are proggy enough.
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micky
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 18:45 |
 Ghost Rider wrote:
. As to Xover, I am not sure the team would agree.
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ahhhhh....
no.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 18:39 |
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feeling like taking of a bite of this poor dead whipped horse...
why not.. can't honestly deny them ... they were defintely prog related.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Logan
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 16:32 |
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I think that Boston would fit PR well, but am inclined to vote no as I tend to think that if a band ain't Prog enough to be seriously considered for a real Prog category, then it ain't proggy enough for this site. And I can't think of Boston as more than Prog-Related (even if I consider it to be definitely suitable for Prog Related due to some albums/ songs) unlike some bands in PR which I consider to have true Prog albums and some which are borderline Prog/Prog Related cases (which may fit Crossover, or may be considered for "stronger" Prog categories -- sorry can't think of a better way to put it now).
But I won't vote. Prog or bust[on]! haha
Edited by Logan - November 11 2007 at 16:33
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The Doctor
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 16:16 |
cynthiasmallet wrote:
I say No. Once Boston are In, that will open the door for the likes of Journey, Toto and Phil Collins, which will lead to the likes of Chris DeBurgh and Barry White. Before you know it we will be crawling around on our hands and knees flinging our own s**t at our PC monitors. |
 That was priceless!
Actually, of that list, I would say De Burgh belongs there more than any of the others. His early stuff was downright proggy in many ways, even now he manages to throw out the occasional proggy gem.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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cynthiasmallet
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 16:11 |
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I say No. Once Boston are In, that will open the door for the likes of Journey, Toto and Phil Collins, which will lead to the likes of Chris DeBurgh and Barry White. Before you know it we will be crawling around on our hands and knees flinging our own s**t at our PC monitors.
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sircosick
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 16:07 |
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That thing of the majority's disagreement when it comes to add a band is a known issue, isn't it? And Ghost Rider said: Remember that here we have to add a band's whole discography, and that would include "More Than a Feeling" too. And when they added Radiohead, didn't they think that implied to add "Creep" also? So, that's definately not the point.
As for their progressiveness........ I'd give 'em a chance in prog-related, since that "sub-genre" isn't prog but has some influences (as far as I'm concerned). "Foreplay" is an excellent hard prog tune IMO..... then, is that enough to include them? The answer isn't mine,,,, it's for the teams who are on that.
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The best you can is good enough...
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Easy Livin
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 15:55 |
Personally, I'd favour them (strange that until I voted there were no Yes votes). I believe a number of their tracks and albums have a relationship with Prog. "Third stage" for example is a complete concept album with some well structured songs.
The problem with this sort of poll is that even though they are being proposed for prog related, many will vote NO on the basis they are not prog.
With my Admin team hat on, just to clarify the Admin team don't instigate additions to Prog related, we provide decisions when someone comes to us with a definite proposal to add a band.
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Raff
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 13:57 |
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Boston have been suggested various times, but people don't seem to agree about their inclusion. Remember that here we have to add a band's whole discography, and that would include "More Than a Feeling" too. However, you do have a point, and a strong one... If the Admins are listening, they might discuss the inclusion of the band in Prog-Related. As to Xover, I am not sure the team would agree.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: November 11 2007 at 13:50 |
Every once in a great while I think of a band that I just assume is included here only to find out that they are not. In the past, those bands have included:
The Who (later included as proto-prog)
Todd Rundgren (not included, but apparently could be if somebody was willing to step up and do a bit of work on it.)
So today I noticed that Boston isn't on here.
Ok, I'm not claiming that they are symphonic prog or anything. If they were eventually included I think that prog related (or just maybe crossover prog) would be their home.
I'd base their inclusion on the strength of their first two albums (especially the second one.)
Boston has claimed that they were striving for a sound that mixed the styles of Yes and Led Zeppelin. I doubt that you could conclude that they were entirely successful in this, but for those of you who can remember back that far, the Boston sound was extremely innovative at the time and aped a few laters by countless bands (including other prog related bands listed here, most notably Asia.)
So would you think that they deserving of inclusion as prog related?
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