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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 12:02
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by Zappa88 Zappa88 wrote:

You should get writin' too, Mr. DeanStern%20Smile
This is very true - but as you can see from the few I have done - I write long reviews which take... no you're right, I'm lazy Wink
 
I'm guilty if charged as well.  I know so many Prog albums here but haven't written reviews for them. Usually its because I don't know what to write. Sometimes its because I don't care much for the album.
I know what you mean, when I decided I would join-in with this reviewing m'larky I set out with the following objectives:
  1. Only review albums with zero or only few reviews - mainly because there isn't much I can add to a Pink Floyd/Yes/Dream Theater album review that hasn't been said already - I won't even bother rating them as their chart position really doesn't bother me that much.
  2. Be objective as possible - ie not to give a high mark just because I like it.
  3. Not to review albums by bands I don't like - I still don't get why people do that - if a band you do like releases a bad album then give it a low mark by all means, but a low mark to a good album by a band you cannot abide? wtf? Confused
  4. Research what I am reviewing - it takes a few minutes to search the interweb to find out a little background info on an album.
anyway, 3 reviews and (possibly) 1 band bio in 2 months isn't too bad is it?
 
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Points: 183 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:46
About the ELP albums, my opinion is that they are a fantastic band, but they never managed to create a perfect album. If I put together 5 or 6 of their songs it would be a deserved top10 album, but the albums, in their totallity, are not masterpieces... sadly...


And I think casual listeners might come here frequently, especially because this site is the first google entry for Progressive Rock
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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:44
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by Zappa88 Zappa88 wrote:

You should get writin' too, Mr. DeanStern%20Smile
This is very true - but as you can see from the few I have done - I write long reviews which take... no you're right, I'm lazy Wink
 
I'm guilty if charged as well.  I know so many Prog albums here but haven't written reviews for them. Usually its because I don't know what to write. Sometimes its because I don't care much for the album.
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:43
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

Originally posted by Zappa88 Zappa88 wrote:

You should get writin' too, Mr. DeanStern%20Smile
This is very true - but as you can see from the few I have done - I write long reviews which take... no you're right, I'm lazy Wink
 
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:39
Originally posted by Zappa88 Zappa88 wrote:

You should get writin' too, Mr. DeanStern%20Smile
This is very true - but as you can see from the few I have done - I write long reviews which take... no you're right, I'm lazy Wink
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:38
You should get writin' too, Mr. DeanStern%20Smile
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:36
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Originally posted by Zappa88 Zappa88 wrote:

Once again, why don't you review Leftoverture then?
I have  already  awhile ago  actually  Wink
There are no reviews listed under your profile, so you have a golden opportunity to do another one Smile
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:33
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

I think it looks more realistic. Good job!


Is it?Wink


 3.50
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Buy



 
Hey at least the server has good taste, let it beLOL
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:33
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Some classic prog albums which have sold millions have been pushed out of the top 100
Leftoverture being one of them.  Well I am  able to live with the changes but I don`t believe the data  its hit and miss
 
It was pointed out to me before that record sales is not a measure of Prog-ness.  It is a measure of popularity.
 
Selling a lot of records is very non-progWink
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:32
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

I think it looks more realistic. Good job!


Is it?Wink


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Percussion, sir!
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:32

It's not on the websiteConfused
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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:31
Originally posted by Yorkie X Yorkie X wrote:

Some classic prog albums which have sold millions have been pushed out of the top 100
Leftoverture being one of them.  Well I am  able to live with the changes but I don`t believe the data  its hit and miss
 
It was pointed out to me before that record sales is not a measure of Prog-ness.  It is a measure of popularity.
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Points: 1049 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:27
Originally posted by Zappa88 Zappa88 wrote:

Once again, why don't you review Leftoverture then?
I have  already  awhile ago  actually  Wink
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:23
Once again, why don't you review Leftoverture then?
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Points: 1049 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:21
Some classic prog albums which have sold millions have been pushed out of the top 100
Leftoverture being one of them.  Well I am  able to live with the changes but I don`t believe the data  its hit and miss
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:18
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

^ there are numerous examples, (including some 3.54/0 ratings) the one previously mentioned was Sean Trane's single review of this: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10162 which he awarded 4 stars, but it gets a 3.55/1 rating


Fixed Embarrassed
I think there must be a caching or pipeline effect because the fix hasn't filtered through yet.
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Points: 4028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:12
Originally posted by darqdean darqdean wrote:

^ there are numerous examples, (including some 3.54/0 ratings) the one previously mentioned was Sean Trane's single review of this: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=10162 which he awarded 4 stars, but it gets a 3.55/1 rating


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Points: 3004 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:11
Hey... why has "Daybreak/On the road" by eloy a reating of 3.22 when only me and alex have reviewed it, and both rated it 2? :)

Edit: Oh, sorry, i realised this has already been discussed. Still, it hasn't been fixed though..


Edited by Evans - July 11 2007 at 11:14

'Let's give it another fifteen seconds..'
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Points: 8191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:08
Originally posted by yargh yargh wrote:

"I believe you mean the opinions of the collaborators and reviewers. Sure, they are weighted a little higher but that is only because they have shown over the years that they can be counted on to accurately review a diverse amount of music..."
 
Huh?  An album has no objective value.  Thus, "accuracy" in a review context simply means writing a review that expresses your own opinion of the album.  Presumably, anybody who can write can do this.   
 
Yes, but the higher-ups are less prone to writing "fanboy reviews" or "hate reviews" for an album. Sure there are great reviewers that aren't collabs...but I can count them on my fingers and toes. Normal members have a little less weight on their reviews because its classic to see 100 5 star reviews for the number 2 album on the chart, and then when it goes to number one there will be 100 1 star reviews for it.
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Points: 421 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 11 2007 at 11:05
"I believe you mean the opinions of the collaborators and reviewers. Sure, they are weighted a little higher but that is only because they have shown over the years that they can be counted on to accurately review a diverse amount of music..."
 
Huh?  An album has no objective value.  Thus, "accuracy" in a review context simply means writing a review that expresses your own opinion of the album.  Presumably, anybody who can write can do this.   
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