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Poll Question: What are your 3 favorite Spanish progrock albums?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 13:02
Originally posted by Carakhallo Carakhallo wrote:

By the way (today I'm posting waaaay too much), does anybody know the record CAL (from the band with the same name)? I really like it, it's another Spanish band with kind of a flamenco touch, not as good as the classics (Triana, Alameda, Cai...) but they are OK. They even play "pasodoble", a typical Spanish style in a prog way. I must admit they are less proggy than the others I have mentioned, but still interesting to know.


yesssss they're very good, i love that "progdoble" jajajja

You're right, they aren't as good as the classics, but, definetly they are highly recommended

Erik, you should try'em
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 12:52

I am glad that this well visited thread (thanks to everyone who joined) has made clear that Spanish progrock should, like Italian, be considered as (as Carakhallo said) a seprate branch of progrock. I will discuss and I hope that many fellow collaborators have visited this thread and will give their opinion too about

                        SPANISH PROGROCK SHOULD HAVE AN OWN BRANCH LIKE ITALIAN!!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 12:48
By the way (today I'm posting waaaay too much), does anybody know the record CAL (from the band with the same name)? I really like it, it's another Spanish band with kind of a flamenco touch, not as good as the classics (Triana, Alameda, Cai...) but they are OK. They even play "pasodoble", a typical Spanish style in a prog way. I must admit they are less proggy than the others I have mentioned, but still interesting to know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 12:43
Originally posted by Carakhallo Carakhallo wrote:

Well, Spanish prog bands usually sound completely different to any other kind of prog ever made, because of the Spanish flamenco influences. If Italian prog (which is basically symphonic prog) is considered a branch of prog rock itself, then Spanish prog should also be, since it's more original, whithout any doubt.

The thing is prog came to Spain quite late (actually, everything that is fashionable in UK or US will finally arrive to Spain 3 or 5 years later...). So Spanish bands started to play prog about 1975. Before that year you could find basically psychodelic rock or proto-prog bands (some of them would finally end playing prog). So the golden era of Spanish prog lasted only 5 years, untill 1980. And as you know, prog was not fashionable anymore after 1977... It was a short life, and I think that's why it hasn't already got the status of Italian prog, for example. Too late... to short.

Anyway, I am so delighted that people is becoming more and more interested on this style. There are about 30 must-have Spanish prog CDs, so I think the adventure should be interesting enough for everyone!



I'm in the process of decided what to get, and where to get them from..  This thread has been helpful.  Thanks for the thoughts on the question.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 12:42
Actually, I think Spanish prog should be considered as a genuine style... Erik, do you know who should I contact to make this proposal?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 12:35

Well, Spanish prog bands usually sound completely different to any other kind of prog ever made, because of the Spanish flamenco influences. If Italian prog (which is basically symphonic prog) is considered a branch of prog rock itself, then Spanish prog should also be, since it's more original, whithout any doubt.

The thing is prog came to Spain quite late (actually, everything that is fashionable in UK or US will finally arrive to Spain 3 or 5 years later...). So Spanish bands started to play prog about 1975. Before that year you could find basically psychodelic rock or proto-prog bands (some of them would finally end playing prog). So the golden era of Spanish prog lasted only 5 years, untill 1980. And as you know, prog was not fashionable anymore after 1977... It was a short life, and I think that's why it hasn't already got the status of Italian prog, for example. Too late... to short.

Anyway, I am so delighted that people is becoming more and more interested on this style. There are about 30 must-have Spanish prog CDs, so I think the adventure should be interesting enough for everyone!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 12:04
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Hello Micky.

If I compare Italian to Spanish prog I would say about Italian that on one hand the bands are more obvious influenced by ELP, Genesis and VDGG but on the other hand the bands often sound very adventurous, more complex and very alternating, sometimes less accessible.

The Spanish prog often contain folky elements from the several regions (as Carakhallo mentiones) including the different languages like Catalonian (Dr. No) and Basque (Itoiz). Especially the integration of the exciting flamenco is wonderful (Triana, Cai, Azahar). In my opinion the Spanish prog sound very original, often it's hard to find obvious influences (most of the time King Crimson and Camel).



thanks for the feedback.....looks like  I've found my newest area of exploration.   Sounds like I'll really enjoy it.


Erik (or anyone)  - any theories as to why Spanish prog has never attained the  'status'  that Italian prog has, at least here at PA's.  Could it be the lack of apparent influences that might have led fans of Genesis, G.G, VDGG and ELP to the next progression of their music. It sounds like, based on your post, that is is a seperate branch of prog and should be recognized as such (remember I'm sort of new here and have missed any previous discussions/debates about it)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 11:37

Paulieg, I think you should get maaaany Spanish prog CDs, you won't regreat it! And you will find many albums more interesting than the one from Mezquita. After listening to Triana, Cai, Canarios, etc, I personally don't understand why many people likes Mezquita so much. They say the guitar players are very good, but I (as a guitar player) do not agree with them... Anyway, I will listen to the record again (I haven't done it for a few years) and tell you all about my feelings nowadays.

And about Crack's CD, it has been recently re-released, I think it was a Japanese label, but I am not sure... And the thing is the people from the band was not aware of that!! So you better get it before they decide do something about it...

Ah, here it is, I found it. Take a look at this list from Si-Wan Records releases, here you can find Crack among many other prog CDs:

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8366/OTHERS-si-wa n.html

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:38
Originally posted by erik neuteboom erik neuteboom wrote:

Pagasarri, Granada has some fine bagpipe on their albums.



i have the threes albums by Granada

Very good, specially "españa año 75" y "valle del pas"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:20

mezquita's release is just awesome.  I love the crickets that start off the album and sneak back in every so often.  These guys play their stones off.  Ecspecially the guitar and bass players.  I just recently am emmersing myself in the Spanish prog scene after buying well over a hundred, make that more like 200 Italian releases.  I don't have many of the releases mentioned, but will be getting them.  Hopefully some of them will be re-released, like the Crack album.  I've been trying to find this release for a long time.  I see Granada wasn't mentioned.  I feel they should be, though I don't feel they are the best.  Another good one  is "Gualberto's" "Vericuetos."  Some awesome playing in league with Mezquita on this release.  So far nothing beats Mezquita though. 

                              SPANISH PROG!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:08

Carakhallo, I just included Zaguan to this site and I have also written a review about their CD Testigo Del Tiempo, the vocals sound incredible similar to Jesus De La Rosa.

Pagasarri, Granada has some fine bagpipe on their albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 06:34
Originally posted by Carakhallo Carakhallo wrote:

I think it's time for me to start listening to some Spanish prog again. I am very curious about Zaguan, since everybody say they sound like Triana, is it true? I will also try to get Máquina and Goma.

Antbody here knows Nuberu? They were a folk-prog band from my region, Asturias, in the north of Spain. They were more folk (celtic) than prog but they say their second and third album were quite proggy (although sometimes they used drum programming...). I have only listened to some tunes, but they are quite good. As many other bands from Asturias, they played the asturian bagpipe in many songs, I love that sound!!


I know them, but never listen to them. mmmm I love bagpipe too and celtic music, so it's very probable that i like them.

http://www.dlsi.ua.es/~inesta/Prog/SPE/nuberu-e.html


Not much information here, only a short"Jazz rock, folclore asturiano. Todo junto."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 06:20
I think it's time for me to start listening to some Spanish prog again. I am very curious about Zaguan, since everybody say they sound like Triana, is it true? I will also try to get Máquina and Goma.

Antbody here knows Nuberu? They were a folk-prog band from my region, Asturias, in the north of Spain. They were more folk (celtic) than prog but they say their second and third album were quite proggy (although sometimes they used drum programming...). I have only listened to some tunes, but they are quite good. As many other bands from Asturias, they played the asturian bagpipe in many songs, I love that sound!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 20:49
manglis escalera al cielo 1981
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 16:46
no that was last weekend so it seems your saying sa prog is the right category 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 16:41
This thread is about Spanish prog, Tempano is from Venezuela, on a trip this evening Timothy ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 16:28
where is anyone who also enjoys tempano the agony and the ecstacy is a really well done album they also appear on the musea package the odyssey which is a great compilation
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 15:39

DallasBryan, early Neuronium is great, wonderful synthesizer musis blended with fiery guitar soli from Santi Pico

Pagasarri, thanks for the words about Zaguan, I hope they will get more attention.

Shyman, thanks for your reaction, I hope more progheads will follow you, the Spanish Prog! thread is going very well, thanks!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 12:09
from the 70's
Canarios - Ciclos
Atila - Reviure
Gualberto - Vericuetos
Neuronium - Quasar 2C361
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 04 2006 at 06:21
Actually a friend of mine (who, like most people here doesn't know what prog is) mentioned that to me and it caught my attention, so that's why I decided to mention it
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