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^ I have fond memories of Delia Derbyshire too. Thumbs Up

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I was consistently attracted to Tangerine Dream's sound ideas. Their keyboard settings were particularly interesting to me. The dark soundscapes on Zeit and the pulsating rhythms on Phadrea and Rubycon.

Tangerine Dream broke ground in stepping forward with Electronic sounds. Some of these particular sound ideas for pulsating rhythms and dark soundscapes had already been invented and recorded by Delia Derbyshire in 1964. They weren't quite along the lines of Karlheinz Stockhousen, but more likely to be on the same page as Tangerine Dream and by the early 70s that particular style of Electronic resurfaced in Tangerine Dream music , but with a new approach.

In the 70s I'd often compare Rick Wright's keyboard work on Ummagumma with Tangerine Dream Atem. The similarities were outrageous. I recall reading about Delia Derbyshire paying for a taxi to transport the members of Pink Floyd to a studio so she could introduce them to Electronic Music or perhaps how to utilize it.

Tangerine Dream seemed to blend these kinds of ideas into music in a new innovative way..which influenced many other Electronic artists. I was really impressed with the talents of Edgar Froese. His solo albums were telling. Listening to them caused me to believe that he was Tangerine Dream. It was in fact like hearing a Tangerine Dream album.

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 3 stars 2011: Live at the Lowry, Manchester - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDnDcC9iT9uG2c9JNza7otcGS7NKIS4HJ

Tangerine Dream's 39th Live album and their 151st album overall. The above link is the bootleg version of the concert and not the official CD version, so I'd give it a miss if I were you. If you want to hear the official CD version of the concert, you'd be better off checking out The Gate of Saturn EP, featured here earlier. Smile

 4 stars 2011: The Gate of Saturn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KspZxdMoTl4


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 4 stars 2011: Knights of Asheville - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k-HyA3QZBUPNASfsxqgX7Ezw_NoAuNoHs

Tangerine Dream's 38th Live album and their 150th album overall (not counting the previous fan club promo EP), recorded at Moogfest in Asheville, North Carolina on October 28th 2011. There's some Live footage from the event on YouTube, but it looks and sounds like it was filmed on someone's camera-phone from the back of the auditorium, so I wouldn't bother if I were you. Wink

Listen out for Bernhard Beibl's distinctive guitar sound on the track below. 



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 4 stars 2011: The Gate of Saturn - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KspZxdMoTl4

Tangerine Dream's landmark 150th album (or thereabouts), meaning we're now about three-quarters of the way through Tangerine Dream's humongous discography. But is The Gate of Saturn really an album? It's a companion piece to Tangerine Dream's 2011 concert at The Lowry in Manchester, released as a fan club promo in the "Cupdisc" series, and with a duration of 32 minutes, it's either a long EP or a short album. Either way, The Gate of Saturn runs rings around the opposition. Smile
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^ It sounds like you've crossed the threshold into the psychedelic world of Aldous Huxley. Wink



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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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Irish author James Joyce - a book which everyone knows but hardly anyone has read, bearing in mind it's notorious for being one of the most difficult works of fiction in Western literature, when reading Tolstoy's epic War and Peace would seem like a doddle by comparison. Thankfully, Tangerine Dream's album is far more approachable than the book.  Smile
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There are some things that I have read that were "difficult", but most of them were around the time when my English was really poor ... to the point that a professor at UCSB once told me that he wished my English was better so I could express myself better. It still took 5 to 6 more years before I got more comfortable and that was when I started writing full time.

To me, and this may sound weird to some, nothing is difficult or has a hidden meaning, or simply a "nothing" that makes us think that there is something there ... reminds me of The Bardo (Tibetan) where there are "several doors" between levels, or areas, and you have to pass through them ... when in reality, the minute you pass through a door of perception (psychic stuff!) the first thing you say is ... are you ready? ... I could have done that before! Which tells you that it was the thinking mind that created the "door" ... or better stated, there was no door! ... and we all can sit down and have some lunch over it, as don Juan would say!

The same goes for music, and the arts ... and it's one of the reasons why tomatoes and potatoes does not turn me on even if it were done by Van Gogh or Da Vinci! And Warhol is the ultimate "nothing" for me! a different color for dearest Marylin ... wow ... you could have done that when you were 5 years old and laugh at mom for it!
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^ I regard that as one of their best later albums. They do admittedly go very 'retro' at times but that's probably why I like it. A bit of the old and a bit of the new style mixed together.
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 4 stars 2011: Finnegans Wake - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3HCcG8SkJE9-4SI0cBi5_Quq-tpTPJD0

Tangerine Dream's 149th album. Finnegans Wake is the third of four albums in the "Sonic Poems" series, based on a novel by Irish author James Joyce - a book which everyone knows but hardly anyone has read, bearing in mind it's notorious for being one of the most difficult works of fiction in Western literature, when reading Tolstoy's epic War and Peace would seem like a doddle by comparison. Thankfully, Tangerine Dream's album is far more approachable than the book.  Smile



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 4 stars 2011: Mona Da Vinci - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8wjVNuT7QPJ25ksG5rsuczG6zRTsmQeG

Tangerine Dream's 148th album. Listed as an "EP" on Tangerine Dream's official website, this "CupDisc" album is 42 minutes long,  so that should be enough to make any TD fan smile if Mona Da Vinci is priced as an EP. Smile



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 4 stars 2011: The Angel of the West Window - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nucCrEQgvEBjP5TpkTE0f8LqZ9F42_wJE

Tangerine Dream's 147th album. The second of four albums in the "Sonic Poems" series, The Angel of the West Window is based on a novel by Gustav Meyrink - Germany's answer to Edgar Allan Poe. The music is dark, brooding and menacing (like a score from an imaginary horror movie), so it's best to pull the bedcovers up tight and be sure to secure all of the doors and windows before going to bed tonight. Clown

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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

I can only hope that Linda Spa comes back to the music world. I do think that she added a bit more to TD than she is given credit for, and in the end, it looks like she was dumped ... or at least the emotional hurt was beyond a lot ... specially when one gives up over 15 years of their life and love and work, for a band that obviously meant a lot to her!

Linda wasn't "dumped," she simply chooses not to be in a version of Tangerine Dream that lacks Edgar.
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 4 stars 2011: Island of the Fay - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kcIq9L07Eu5opBU7W1w-QJHkp5UccWsuk

Tangerine Dream's 146th album. The first of four albums in the "Sonic Poems" series, based on a novel by Edgar Allan Poe and the first TD album to feature violinist Hoshiko Yamane.


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^ You're right. The Linda Spa years were Tangerine Dream's best years for me, and we can only hope that she returns to the music world with the long-awaited solo album she's rumoured to be working on. 




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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

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Precious - a Depeche Mode cover and a tribute to Linda Spa, possibly. Wink
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I can only hope that Linda Spa comes back to the music world. I do think that she added a bit more to TD than she is given credit for, and in the end, it looks like she was dumped ... or at least the emotional hurt was beyond a lot ... specially when one gives up over 15 years of their life and love and work, for a band that obviously meant a lot to her!
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Tangerine Dream's 145th album. As you may have guessed from the title, this is an album of cover versions - which Tangerine Dream describe as their "impossible project" - and very good it is too, with Chris Hausl returning on vocals again, following his initial outing with Tangerine Dream on their 100th album: Madcap's Flaming Duty back in 2007, which already seems like a long time ago, bearing in mind how many albums Tangerine Dream have released since then. Smile

Precious - a Depeche Mode cover and a tribute to Linda Spa, possibly. Wink



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5 stars 2010: Zeitgeist: Live in Lisbon - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thpd59FmvAE

Tangerine Dream's 37th Live album and their 144th album overall. This is the longest Tangerine Dream concert you're ever likely to hear, running at over three hours long, so plenty of time to dwell on the Zeitgeist of Tangerine Dream's greatest ever epoch: 2005-2014. Thumbs Up

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Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

I believe Tangerine Dream were responsible for creating the pulsating rhythm in Electronic Music that most people borrowed thereafter. It seemed to start with Phadrea, but one of the first indicators is found on "Circulation Of Events" from Atem.

Tangerine Dream are assuredly the progenitors of the familiar "Berlin school" sound, predated by "kosmische Musik" (the German equivalent of space rock), a classification coined by none other than Edgar Froese. Kosmische Musik was also the title, appropriately enough, of a famous 2LP compilation issued by TD's first label Ohr that featured them, Ash Ra Tempel, Klaus Schulze (who at different times was a member of both TD/ART), and Popol Vuh. (TD's "Journey from a Burning Brain" from their debut Electronic Meditation had appeared on Ohr's earlier krautrock sampler Ohrenschmaus.)

Originally posted by Jacob Schoolcraft Jacob Schoolcraft wrote:

Neuronium in the early 80s were heavily influenced by Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream. In Mexico during the 90s a lot of interesting Electronic Music was being recorded and released. Jose Luis Fernandez Ledesma, Alquimia, Jorge Reyes, Carlos Alverdo and others had played in Progressive Rock bands in the 70s and were releasing Electronic Music. Tangerine Dream were a huge influence on them . Redshift and Free System Projeck in Germany and all through Europe during the 80s and 90s were totally influenced by T.D. Robert Schroeder, Software, were candidates for producing Schulze and T.D. style music.

It was hard for any electronic musician then to not be influenced by TD. Two exceptions I can think of are Roger Powell, with his outstanding all-ARP technology-enabled pre-Utopia album Cosmic Furnace, and Synergy (Larry Fast).

Neuronium's early material is excellent, particularly their 1980 effort Digital Dream.
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I believe Tangerine Dream were responsible for creating the pulsating rhythm in Electronic Music that most people borrowed thereafter. It seemed to start with Phadrea, but one of the first indicators is found on "Circulation Of Events" from Atem.

Of course there were already other people doing this. Terry Riley on Rainbow In Curved Air, Mort Garson Black Mass or the track "Leave The Driving To Us" from 69' , repeated later on Pink Floyd "On The Run"..but these particular pulsating sounds were far from sounding like Phadrea. It was this particular style of Tangerine Dream that influenced Electronic Music in the 80s and 90s.

Neuronium in the early 80s were heavily influenced by Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream. In Mexico during the 90s a lot of interesting Electronic Music was being recorded and released. Jose Luis Fernandez Ledesma, Alquimia, Jorge Reyes, Carlos Alverdo and others had played in Progressive Rock bands in the 70s and were releasing Electronic Music. Tangerine Dream were a huge influence on them . Redshift and Free System Projeck in Germany and all through Europe during the 80s and 90s were totally influenced by T.D. Robert Schroeder, Software, were candidates for producing Schulze and T.D. style music.
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5 stars 2010: Zeitgeist Concert: Live at the Royal Albert Hall, London -  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lPT8EN2bNNdsuExqq6fa6zFe6zHIFHdO4

Tangerine Dream's 36th Live album and their 143rd album overall. The Zeitgeist concert marks the 35th anniversary of the first time Tangerine Dream played the Royal Albert Hall in 1975. This magnificent audio recording features 33 tracks spread over 3-CD's, which is well-worth buying just for the dramatic reworking of Rubycon alone. The concert opens with a beautiful piano solo from Linda Spa, which is rudely interrupted by Edgar Froese slamming the piano lid down, apparently. Confused



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