Interactive Poll XIII - Surprise, surprise

jamesbaldwin wrote: @Nicki Snicolette wrote: Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album. VIDEO REMOVED Interesting sound. It resembles Japanese songs, which makes me think that Homo sapiens passed through the Bering Strait, and in fact the Native Americans they look like features to Chinese, Mongolians and Japanese. @Raffaella I love the firsts three or four albums by Chris Isaak. Wicked Game is wonderful.

  Yes!!!!  And I agree so much on the connection across the Bering Sea and think that there are possible lingual roots in common, although I do not know for certain.  It is very sweet sounding to my ears.

Edited by Snicolette - July 21 2020 at 18:37

Logan wrote: I thought of a few surprises. My biggest surprise involved an Australian band. My brother was friends with band members in Cairns, I moved there for a year when I was 19. They had their own bar, and I was a bartender (but not there, that would be too much coincidence). ;). The night before I came back to Canada, my brother and I went see that band, Johno's Blues band live at their bar. In fact, the band's "Don't Knock the Croc" was the first thing my brother played on a jukebox on my first day in Cairns. When I got back home to Vancouver I put on the radio and "Don't Knock the Croc" was playing. Hey, don;t knock the coincidence even if it sounds like a crock of kaka. While that was a hit in Australia, I don't remember it ever playing here before or after. My other big coincidence surprise was at about the same time. I had just bought the CD of Kate Bush's The Kick Inside and was listening to it for the first time. At the same time I was reading (I liked to multi-task) a wonderful book about Paul Theroux's travels around China called Riding the Iron Rooster. Kate Bush has a song called "Strange Phenomena" on it and I was hearing it for the first time which is about strange coincidences. At the exact same time that the book mentioned the Buddhist chant "Om Mani Padme Hum", Kate Bush started singing the chant. If I had been the superstitious type, I might have seen this as some sort of revelation. I've heard less compelling to me coincidences put forward by superstitious types as evidence for the supernatural. I did have some interest in the paranormal for sure. I'm going for what seems lesser coincidence as my surprising choice even if it's not amazing in any way. I had just got into a dark comedy radio series called Blue Jam from the 90s (this wasn't that long ago), and it played a lot of music on the show. One of the songs was Pulp's "Dishes". A quite popular song that I had heard before, but I, being a pattern seeking animal, have thought before that quite a lot of that could refer to me, and yes, of course this is quite absurd, but still, and none of it is that surprising.... The song starts with "I am not Jesus though I have the same initials. I am the man who stays home and does the dishes". I too am not Jesus, and while I do not have the same initials, I too am the man who stays home and does the dishes." Oh and I would like to make that water wine even if it's impossible. Anyway, I rarely listen to music radio now (even if Blue Jam was a sketch comedy series for the radio that heavily incorporated music), but in the car I put on the radio (the night before I had listened to the Blue Jam episode that played the Pulp song, and what was on, but Pulp's Dishes (and its station I very rarely listen to). Having recently fallen for Blue Jam as much as I did, it felt fairly significant.

Snicolette wrote: Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album. VIDEO REMOVED

Snicolette wrote: Logan wrote: One might say that such coincidences are bound to happen, and, say for the conspiracy theorists, the more one looks for certain patterns the more one will be prone to confirmation bias. Last night I watched a program on Donald Trump and conspiracy theories on CNN. I used to be convinced that I had ESP, and I remember our talks about coincidences and other strange things. "There are more things in heaven and Earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy" (Hamlet). And by a not coincidence, I played Hamlet in a play called Haunted House Hamlet.   I liked to fancifully tell the story that I wore a codpiece made of real cod when playing Hamlet, but it died and fell off as I failed to water it, and I should have gone with, say, a blowfishpiece or a suckerfishpiece. I had mentioned elsewhere (not here, elsewhere, but another site entirely), that I feel that the people who are not protesting peacefully in Portland, are indirectly responsible for 45 feeling he can get away with bringing in the Feds without a by-your-leave from local and state government.  Or, maybe directly, as in being supporters who have come in to discredit the peaceful protesters, and therefore more or less in cahoots with 45.  I do tend to try to avoid that kind of thinking and prefer to consider what one can do to counteract what one disagrees with (ie peaceful protest, or at least, at my age and abilities, being supportive of such peaceful protest). That is hilarious, about the codpiece.  When I lived in Santa Cruz, they used to put on the Miss California pageant every year.  A peaceful protest began where, in a parade, women wore elabourate costumes made of meat (long before Lady Gaga thought of it). The Myth Kalifornia march had Ann Simonton at it's forefront.  Here's an article from the local entertainment paper about it, in 1986.  https://goodtimes.sc/cover-stories/the-f-word/

A very interesting point about 45. In the documentary it was all about how 45 has appealed to, perpetuated and cited conspiracy theorists (such as Alex Jones), and propagated conspiracy "theories" (I use theory in a non-scientific sense). It's sad how easily people can be manipulated, deceived, have negative biases reinforced, and how utterly irrational people can be.I do in part blame the education system for not putting enough emphasis on teaching children how to think critically. As is often said, a good teacher doesn't teach what to think but how to think. Questioning is often not encouraged, and certain parents and lobbyist and special interest groups make it harder for the teachers who do wish to expose the students to things such as rational scientific inquiry and principles of reason generally (and epistemology generally). But I speak as something of a cod philosopher, codpiece and all.

I remember hearing about the meat dress, and have had issues with beauty pageants myself -- PETA would have preferred tofurkey or some such thing (a Vegan protest). Women, burn your meat bras. I like my brassieres well-braised. I'm glad that no one let the dogs out "Woof, woof, woof" (unless I missed that bit), that would spell trouble. An interesting link (to the article, not to the links of sausages I mean), which I have only skimmed so far.

Edited by Logan - July 21 2020 at 17:19

before I dive back into what everyone has posted so far...

Edited by micky - July 21 2020 at 17:03

Lewian wrote: Özgür, have a good time! You're always welcome!

Thanks man!

This one, which is made by a British musician/ comedic actor (I like a lot of his music and shows he has worked in), initially surprised me when I first heard certain vocals come in at 2:45 --please play from earlier (with questionable lyrics).



This is my favourite track off the album, by the way (tres proggy):



Edited by Logan - July 21 2020 at 16:51

Here was a surprise to me.  I did not expect to hear this when I first heard this, as it is on a recording by Robbie Robertson & The Red Road Ensemble, Music for the Native Americans.  I find it just hypnotic and gorgeous.  Although I knew the premise of the LP before hearing it, I expected to hear Robbie Robertson, pretty much.  This is actually an all female Native American group, Ulali, performing Mahk Jchi, who guested on his album.

you go darling ..  yeah... perhaps in another 10 years you'll post your favorite Willie Nelson song hahah

that's interesting.. the more so outside the lines of prog where the whole name of the proggame is discovery and finding those surprises