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Dean 
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 Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:41 |
 Atavachron wrote:
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Plenty of good non fried/grilled food on the east coast. I do like living by the ocean in a compact city, Boston |
One of the cities I must visit someday.
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My thoughts exactly. I knew that New England was famed for its baking but (naively perhaps) assumed this was only for sweet dishes... but of course there's Boston baked beans (though a tad too sweet for me, I prefer a nice French cassoulet with pork, confit duck and sausage)
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TeleStrat
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:32 |
I was in Boston several years ago when the city was being renovated. I think it was referred to as The Dig. We were there to take the Sam Adams brewery tour which was very interesting. We sampled several products that day.  |
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:24 |
Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:
Plenty of good non fried/grilled food on the east coast. I do like living by the ocean in a compact city, Boston |
One of the cities I must visit someday.
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:15 |
I'm not fully aware of the benefits as such, but the handful of times I've visited The States (mainly East Coast), I could well be content living in Montauk, just me, my Prog collection (and a Nympho  ). Better there, than here.......
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Cailyn
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:10 |
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^ You're of course talking about our great nation here right? The fact we have GUN controls, way better booze, The most varied climate and geography, no Piers Morgan. But as far as Rotherham goes, we did have residential schools and that is just as bad a scandal as any. I doubt any nation doesn't have it's black hour. That being said... Canada is THE place to live. Oh, and politically...them US politicians are CRAY CRAY !!!! Ours are mostly just @ssholes.
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Good grief, who let the bloody Canucks in here?  This was a discussion re UK vs US, not the wannabees north of the 49th parallel  There is no reasonable answer to this question. I have lived in both countries (12 years in the UK) and I love them both for different reasons. While the US may have more varied landforms due to the size difference, I think most Americans would be amazed at the varied terrain in the UK from the Fens and lovely Kent to Cornwall, Wales, the Lake Country, and Scotland. There are wonderful people and insufferable a****les in both places.... While I once believed that the US was more a land of opportunity than the UK (one of the reasons I returned to the US), I don't feel that is true any longer (for many reasons). I do find Yankee nationalism (the US is the best  ) insufferable and the gun thing is a mess (I am a gun owner). Really though, it's a wash. Where you're born and live early on, where your family is -- these are the things that influence people most often I think. Arguing about it? Pointless.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:00 |
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Plenty of good non fried/grilled food on the east coast. I do like living by the ocean in a compact city, Boston
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Ian
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 20:00 |
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Dean
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 19:52 |
Finnforest wrote:
Dean, there is good food, you just have to know where to find it. But yes there is a lot of crap food too, no argument there..
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The challenge is not finding good food (until my last visit that was relatively easy), the challenge was finding food that wasn't fried or grilled. Admittedly I was in Texas when I threw down that challenge to my work colleagues and the best they could come up with was pizza.
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Dean
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 19:46 |
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rushfan4
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 18:47 |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 18:42 |
I live in Michigan. We've got lakes bigger than Britain.
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TeleStrat
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 17:53 |
^^ I am strongly in favor of background checks and waiting periods before the buyer can take possession of the firearm. One thing that needs to be addressed is private sales at gun shows where there is no background check and the buyer takes immediate possession of the firearm. This should not be allowed to happen.
As far as military grade weapons, it is illegal for a private citizen to own a fully automatic weapon. This law goes back to the "tommy gun" gangster days in the thirties. The "assault rifles" that you see in gun shops just look military or tactical but they do not function any differently than a standard rifle.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 17:31 |
^ But military style weps are no different than any other 'automatic weapon'; bullets are bullets, what's the point in restricting, or even God forbid, outlawing an M-16 when you can just as easily fire multiple shots from a revolver? Hey man, should we restrict knives and hammers and baseball bats too? Blasphemy!! 
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"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 17:15 |
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Background checks and limits on military grade weapons would be a nice start but the NRA has too many politicians in their pockets.
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Ian
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TeleStrat
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 17:10 |
Guns, food and booze. That's interesting. The gun control controversy will go on in this country forever. There are too many things to consider. Demanding more guns laws is ridiculous since there are already hundreds (technically thousands) of gun laws on the books. None of these existing laws matter to criminals and gang bangers who don't care about laws. Putting new restrictions on law abiding gun owners does little or no good at all. Then, there's the mentally ill issue. No one knows when a mentally ill person or a ticking time bomb is going to snap. No one. Also, no one knows what that person will do when they snap. They may grab a gun or they may drive their car into a crowd of people. No one knows.
As far as food and booze? Well, you have to eat and to quote Zappa, "America Drinks & Goes Home".
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Finnforest
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 15:10 |
Dean, there is good food, you just have to know where to find it. But yes there is a lot of crap food too, no argument there.. I love the heartland exurbs and rural US, I could never live on the coasts or big cities. The only place abroad i might fancy are rural Scandinavian places. Or a nice rural Italian Villa. Then again I could never afford one. So I'll be sticking with Minn.
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Barbu
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 14:53 |
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Most prisoners per capita, no punks on the horizon.
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 14:49 |
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I don't see why anyone would leave England for the US unless they'd been born here or had very strong ties or something. That said, I don't see why any American would move permanently to England except for the same reasons. Both great places, generally perfect weather (hey I like overcast and gloomy), friendly people and both peoples share a love of humor and good music. The food? Largely regional but it's funny how Dean thinks UK food is better. He's mostly right of course though that used to be reversed. Home is truly where the heart is.
As for guns, the only theory I've been able to muster is that the notion of independence became so ingrained and pathologic that being armed went without saying. If I lived in the countryside I'd completely understand that... it's the city boys that seem to misunderstand what guns are meant for.
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Dean
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 14:16 |
Does America have benefits? That sounds a bit communist to me. 
I have been offered a couple of jobs in the USA and did seriously consider moving there but decided not to for family reasons. During the times that I have worked there for short periods (never longer than three weeks at a time) the one thing that I found I could not cope with was the food... it was so boring - everything seems to be either fried or grilled, everything is served with fries and the portion sizes are ridiculous - of course that would be different if I was living there permanently as I would be cooking for myself. If there was one thing that would put me off it would be the inherently ingrained gun-culture, as this makes no sense to me. During my last visit someone said to me: "You Brits, you're not allowed to own guns right?"... to which I replied "Well no that's not right, we're allowed to own guns, we're just not permitted to carry them everywhere we go."
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Imperial Zeppelin
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Posted: October 10 2015 at 12:16 |
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A more important question: What are the benefits of living?
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