Modern prog

*facepalm*

dr prog wrote: Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity.

Dude, you miss out on so much amazing progressive music by outright dismissing modern stuff altogether.

So many inventive and exciting bands working in a variety of progressive genres to discover!

Don't simply hang on to a few albums from a small period of time and miss everything else.

dr prog wrote: Modern prog lacks melody, character and authenticity.

Exactly^ why limit yourself?

baloney^

The modern bands most closely associated with prog such as The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard aren't that well known outside of prog circles. Porcupine Tree and Dream Theater are farily well known both in and out of prog circles but I think they have both been marketed outside of prog circles and have a fan base outside of prog(especially in metal)therefore many of their fans probably aren't even prog fans and I'm sure some of them don't even know what prog is.


So what does all this mean? Well I guess the bottom line is if prog doesn't have a large audience for current stuff then most bands are going to be influenced by the older bands and inevitably wind up sounding like them. It's not like this entirely but it was especially like this in the 80's and 90's where the only real reference for newer bands was the older bands. Some of the newer(or at least post seventies) bands like IQ, Riverside, Porcupine Tree, Marillion, Dream Theater, Mars Volta, Radiohead(if you can count them), Flower Kings, Pendragon, Phideaux, Glass Hammer, Spock's Beard, Opeth and Dream Theater etc are well known enough to influence newer prog bands.


Edited by Prog_Traveller - October 17 2013 at 16:57

Radiohead and Muse would probably be the most likely modern bands to be known in a local high school...but how prog they are or aren't is another discussion.

Horizons wrote: dr wu23 wrote: As some one said earlier.....it's all good. But 2 points to consider is that the old classic prog bands led the way and certainly influenced and provided a style and template in many cases for  the newer bands , and of course there was a discussion not long ago about how progressive the newer material is (is it progressing in any meaningful way..) and is it all that different.? I like many of the new bands but still favor the older ones but then I also grew up with the classic bands.   old classic prog bands led the way and certainly influenced and provided a style and template in many cases for the newer bands I've said this before and is my reasoning for my In the Court.. Isn't this untouchable masterpiece. Influence or impact doesn't change the actual quality of music. So I'm not sure how this statement means that classic progressive rock is any better? And to your second statement, wouldn't having to create music that deviates from classic prog be more difficult than to follow the roots? There's an interview I've seen where Roger Daultry said that he sympathizes with newer bands because its much more difficult to make music than the era he was a part of. He used the analogy that there is more paint on the canvas of the musical world.

Doesn't mean classic prog is better but it can certainly mean there might not be any 'modern prog' without those bands who actually started 'prog'...whatever we decide that prog is.

I wasn't born in the time of the classic era of prog rock, or even barely in the sort of 90s revival with the Flower Kings, Dream Theater, Spock's Beard, etc. but I in general prefer the classics like you mentioned (Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Pink Floyd) but there are a few exceptions such as Dream Theater's Metropolis Pt. 2, or Iamthemorning's debut, or Haken's "The Mountain", but I'd say only about 5% of the prog I listen to is from after about 1982. Now, it's starting to change because I'm listening more to the bands I mentioned such as Dream Theater, Haken, Porcupine Tree, Steve Wilson and so on and maybe in about 6 months it will be 25% judging by the rate it's currently going up.

 

The.Crimson.King wrote:  I have very few "modern prog" bands in my collection but not because I turn my nose up at anything released after September 24, 1974

I see what you did there