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moshkito
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Posted: July 16 2013 at 15:02 |
Dean wrote:
Anyone who had sex in the 1960s will be in their 70s now and based upon the ages of peeps posting here, that's no one present, so we're all guessing. |
Wait ... I'm 62! (Born in '50)
And you know you is wong according to the Firesign Theater!
But I was a weergeen until much later! And the gas fumes from the Harley over dinner were scrumptious! But that voice ... you know that is the part I remember the best from that show?
Edited by moshkito - July 16 2013 at 15:07
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tamijo
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Posted: July 16 2013 at 13:14 |
How could I know how it was in the 70's, I was freaking high all the time
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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presdoug
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Posted: July 16 2013 at 10:34 |
^Do you recall if Triumvirat ever played the UK in the seventies?
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Hanson
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Posted: July 16 2013 at 09:29 |
My first experience of prog was when I went to see Lindisfarne in Manchester (UK) in '72 and Genesis were supporting (All at A COST OF £1.10 - Oh the good old days!!). I had never heard of Genesis! Iwas blown and was hooked on prog from then on...
There were many concerts around at that time and LPs weren't too difficult to get hold of in the UK. especially as I wasn't far form the city.I saw bands such as Camel,Kansas, ELP Yes & Greenslade to name a few. Yes there was a lot of showmanship and over the top stage sets but it made for graet entertainmentt in my opinion. I regularly went on recommendations to see bands i knew very little of and was rarely disappointed
I am pleased to see there has been a bit of a resurgence lately with bands such as Astra (form San Diego), Touchstone and Mostly Autimn., I love long tracks rather than short 3/4 minures ones
The 70s were great for Prog but times move on - They were both bad but mainly good things baout the 70s (my era).
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stegor
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 22:52 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
...On the radio were some odd proggish gems such as Bungle in the Jungle by Tull, that i used to hum, and many times I heard PF's Money and ABITWpart2. The 70s soon dies out and after college it was the dreaded 80s and i forgot prog altogether and got heavily into Ultravox, Visage and Yes... |
I'm relieved to learn I wasn't the only Progger that fell for Visage. At least their first album, along with it's sister Ultravox's Vienna, was a seductive slice of slickness. I'm a bit embarrassed to look back at it now, but at the time it just felt right. It was the David Bowie gateway from the 70's into the '80's.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 13:16 |
Dean wrote:
Anyone who had sex in the 1960s will be in their 70s now |
Possibly mid 60s, but yeah.
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Dean
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 13:01 |
Anyone who had sex in the 1960s will be in their 70s now and based upon the ages of peeps posting here, that's no one present, so we're all guessing.
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What?
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Prog_Traveller
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 12:53 |
Lots of sex and drugs and rock n roll. I was a kid in the seventies so I don't know for sure. That's just a guess.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 12:33 |
dr wu23 wrote:
What was it like in the 60's and 70's?
I can't remember much .....must have been having too much fun.
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I don't remember the 60's as being a whole lot of fun, I remember my older male cousins freaking that they'd receive a draft notice any day and be sent to the meat grinder that was Viet Nam. Throw in the assassinations of John & Bobby Kennedy and MLK, serial killers like Zodiak and the Manson family & Nixon in the white house...it's no wonder people went with the "Tune in, Turn on, Drop out" thing and headed to Golden Gate Park to trip with The Dead. At least the music was great
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Dean
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 09:39 |
If you can't remember what you had for dinner yesterday you are in the sixties.
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presdoug
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Posted: July 09 2013 at 08:30 |
^If you can remember the 60s, you weren't in the sixties.
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dr wu23
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 13:38 |
What was it like in the 60's and 70's?
I can't remember much .....must have been having too much fun.
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One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 04:59 |
i began listening to Prog in the 1970s. I walked into a record store and walked out with Pink Floyd's Dark side of the Moon, then bought The Wall during College in 1980. I had been collecting rock records in the 70s such as Sweet, SUZI QUATRO, ALICE COOPER, The Runaways, GARY NUMAN and KISS. I had bought a Marillion album later but before then I had Aqualung and lots of Kraftwerk. A lot of these I had on cassette that bought in Indonesia dirt cheap.
I used to sit in my room upstairs and play these records all day till it drove my parents wacko. i remember putting on a Tom T Hall just to please dad and he came upstairs and said "it's great that you are listening to decent music for a change instead of all that Yah Yah Yah!" The Yah Yah Yah was probably The Sweet or Quatro that were prone to lots of yelling. I borrowed prog from the library such as KC ITCOTCK and some 70s Yes. After hearing Works by ELP I gave up on them - but returned after hearing their debut which I loved esp Take a Pebble that I learnt by heart and often was found singing at the table.
On the radio were some odd proggish gems such as Bungle in the Jungle by Tull, that i used to hum, and many times I heard PF's Money and ABITWpart2. The 70s soon dies out and after college it was the dreaded 80s and i forgot prog altogether and got heavily into Ultravox, Visage and Yes... well it was the 80s Yes at this stage. Genesis I avoided in the 80s but I stuck with Pink Floyd and Marillion. I watched The Wall at the Drive In even tho i couldnt drive - I just walked in! Soon after I bought the illustrated book and memorised every song, even the narrative parts. I was always into unusual music such as The Residents - watching Commercial movie segment on TV changed my life.
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Svetonio
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Posted: July 08 2013 at 00:06 |
I am 50 and I remember that time went slower than it is today and LPs have lasted "longer" that we rarely were listening to a LP in its entirety - a 10 minutes long sympho-rock ( the term which we widely used in 70s Tito's Yugoslavia for the bands like Yes, KC, Genesis, Jethro Tull and ELP) track was real epic; a 2 hours long gig seemed as an endless perfomance. Oh yes, we have that pleasure while we picking great LP in a record stores on an album jacket basis. Because of Hypnosis group, Roger Dean, Abdul Matti Klarwein ..., - to name a few, the album jackets were amazing masterpieces of graphic design and an important part of the journey trough the Space of 70s music.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 07 2013 at 15:59 |
Kashmir75 wrote:
I wasn't born yet but the impression I get is that music was not so cliquey back then. You had ELP, Sabbath, Tull, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Deep Purple playing at the same festivals. Hell, Tony Iommi was even in Jethro Tull for a brief time. I just get the idea people were more open about experimentation and creativity in music. These days it's all about factions and labels.
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This was certainly true in the character of 60's AM radio. It was not uncommon to hear The Beatles, Stones, The Temptations, The Who, Stevie Wonder, Santana, Ray Charles, Bob Dylan, and Procol Harum all in the same hour
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logoman
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Posted: July 07 2013 at 15:52 |
1970. Hardware shop selling albums at the back of the store. Ignorant 14 year old stumbles on this treasure trove of "contemporary music".
Life changing. Prog creeps into the blood. Vinyl albums offer multiple experiences.Sight,sound and even the smell of said vinyl. The artwork, gatefold sleeves, lyric sheets, music to challenge your mind,a whole world to be explored.
Now its all clinical. Too easy to access. No saving up hard cash for the next album experience. All readily found in a click.
This is more than an old git bemoaning times past it's a fundamental absence of much that made music exploration a pleasure.
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moshkito
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Posted: July 07 2013 at 15:44 |
Kashmir75 wrote:
I wasn't born yet but the impression I get is that music was not so cliquey back then. You had ELP, Sabbath, Tull, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Deep Purple playing at the same festivals. Hell, Tony Iommi was even in Jethro Tull for a brief time. I just get the idea people were more open about experimentation and creativity in music. These days it's all about factions and labels.
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The problem is that this is like saying that commerciality is not any less/more cliquey ... and you know it. All you have to do is look at the "favorites" and top ten, almost all being so cliquey, as to watch us all in Hollywood looking to throw kisses to all our favorite looking _____________________________________________!!!
Music is no more cliquey, than anything else you and I know ... but the question is, how different and "uncliduey" do you want to be in order to find out what is inside? Most think that if they stick with the clique that they will learn it all ... so go ahead ... perfect road to dis-illusion, because somewhere along the way, you have to "leave" the group, in order to find who you are!
What you are not seeing is how different, and how separated so many of these folks were from the social norm, and how many of them were hoping for things to improve!
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 22:47 |
Ya, I was into Yes before Genesis too. I bought 'Trick of the Tail' when it came out off a friend of a friend for $2...I liked "Dance on a Volcano" straight away but thought the rest was just ok. Then I bought Nursery Cryme next and life was good
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stegor
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 22:15 |
^^^I also remember a Trick of the Tail broadcast in 1976. Might have been a "King Bisquit Flour Hour" show but I'm not sure. I also recorded it as broadcast here in Minnesota. My tape is also long gone. At the time I was pretty new to Genesis and it was my first exposure to them. I remember hearing they had recently lost their vocalist, a guy who liked to wear costumes. That was all I knew of them. I was into Yes and I heard they were similar. I didn't like them instantly but it didn't take too long.
FM radio was great back then. I remember hearing all sorts of Prog on the radio, very briefly, between 1975 when I became aware of it and 1978 when it all went commercial.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: July 06 2013 at 01:03 |
Here's one of the main things I remember about music in the 60's and 70's...radio...
In the 60's AM radio was king, and back then "Top 40" was what AM played. That may sound horrific by todays definition, but in the late 60's a Top 40 AM station would regularly play The Beatles, Stones, Who, Procol Harum, Al Green, The Temptations, Grateful Dead, Bob Dylan, Sly and the Family Stone, The Byrds, Santana, Ray Charles, Jefferson Airplane, Elvis, Simon & Garfunkel, Jimi, The Doors, etc. I remember when The Beatles 'White Album' came out. The entire weekend, my local AM station KLIV only played songs from the White Album...nothing else. It was truly a unique time in popular music. Rock wasn't compartmentalized into little buckets and no one had yet invented "crossover" artists. If it was good, it made it to top 40 and AM radio played it.
In the 70's rock went underground and radio became specialized. FM radio emerged. K101 was one of the 1st San Francisco FM stations and you began hearing more adventurous music like Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, Queen, Led Zep, ELP, David Bowie,etc...what they began calling Album Oriented Rock (AOR). You began to hear long extended cuts rather than the chopped up 2:30 AM staples. You'd still hear 60's rock acts like The Beatles, Doors, and Jimi...but they would no longer be mixed with Motown, soul, folk, or R&B as in the AM days. Love 'em or hate 'em, Rolling Stone magazine had a huge influence on what music was considered "cool" in this new world (their full-on hatred of prog helped keep our beloved music far from the airwaves - with the exception of breakthrough hits like "Living in the Past", "Lucky Man", "Money" or "Roundabout".) FM also began doing things AM would never have dreamed of, playing live concert simulcasts. Christmas night 1976 a local FM station actually played an entire Genesis "Trick of the Tail" tour show. I proudly recorded it on the Radio Shack 8-track recorder I received as a present that day! Unfortunately, the tape is long gone. I also recall the weekend "Going for the One" was released, a local FM station played the whole album late that Friday night...cool...
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