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Points: 7265 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2011 at 21:05
Dialing it back to about 1971-2 gives us a bunch.  Wishbone Ash, Captain Beyond, Deep Purple (arguably), Bloodwyn Pig, Led Zep, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd etc.   
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Points: 13056 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2011 at 17:50
Well, three songs come to mind as obvious progressive blues masterpieces:
 
 
 
 
 


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Originally posted by desistindo desistindo wrote:

  But i have to say that blues is sometimes "anti-prog", cause is a genre too much tide in rigid scales, so you can run from the circular structure. 



yes, it is . traditional blues songs use 12-bar or 16-bar I-IV-V chord progression,
and most of blues songs have pretty the same structure.

progressive rock is not that simply defined, it's very various and flexible, and there is no such thing as "prog rock chord progression" . that's why all this topic arisen.

but what, if would song started from 12-bar blues progression, then developed into complex piece with mix of classical and jazz-inspired soloing and tempo/key changes, and then reverted back to I-IV-V. I'd call that "progressive blues rock" then


p.s when I wrote this, Artur Brown's Kingdom Come come to mind.
Galactic Zoo Dossier is very much prog-rock, but blues roots are everywhere



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A lot of heavy prog got blues influences, id highlight Atomic Rooster:










But i have to say that blues is sometimes "anti-prog", cause is a genre too much tide in rigid scales, so you can run from the circular structure.







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Originally posted by The_Jester The_Jester wrote:

Some Yes tracks are really bluesy. Like I've seen all good people: it's a blues shuffle.

A bit of a tenuous connection though. I would describe that more as boogie (woogie optional!), along with the Tormato demo track "Money".

There is blues in Steve Howe, but it gets a bit lost amongst all the other influences and styles that make up Yes.


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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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I don't think most folks here would consider this progressive, but by the same token many hardcore Delta or urban blues fans wouldn't consider it proper blues either.


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Originally posted by Man With Hat Man With Hat wrote:

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.

 
Absolutely. Sadly, not for everyone.
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yeah they're called Led Zeppelin
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Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.

 
Absolutely. Sadly, not for everyone.
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Check out Roine Stolt's album Wallstreet Voodoo.
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Steamhammer. Especially Mk.II and Mountains. Thier last album as a trio, Speech(1972) was proto-metal/heavy prog/space-psych endeavour similar to that of Hawkwind. Steve Joliffe (Tangerine Dream) appeared on Mk. II (1969) with his sax and flute and the addition of drummer Mickey Bradley took the band more to a prog/blues/jazz fusion.
 
 
 


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All of the Gentle Giant Debut.
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I haven't heard this one, but:
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Most of the people in this thread don't seem to know what the blues are.

Originally posted by ghost_of_morphy ghost_of_morphy wrote:

Actually, prog blues would be embodied by Captain Beefheart.
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Originally posted by silverpot silverpot wrote:

Floyd, definately.


yes, that's a good example
don't mention short songs (lot of them are blues-influenced), but even long suites like Echoes and  Shine On Your Craze Diamond have bluesy feeling  (thanks to Mr Gilmour)
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Points: 34055 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:04
Gentle giant is by roots very blusey even though they are all over the place, they got strong blues roots,



I would also call early Elton John progressive blues rock, cosue he experimented alot with blues and chrod progressions within the blues format
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how 'bout this one ?




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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:48
I would nominate Groundhogs' Split (parts 1-4) - the title track from the split album is a Heavy-Psyche-Progressive-Blues epic
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Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 10:41
Regarding early Fleetwood Mac,.....there wasn't any influence of prog from Mr. Jeremy Spencer. He utterly hated "In the Court of the Crimson King"LOL He was one of those prog haters by nature. If anything sounded close to prog elements the credit would fall into the arms of Kirwan and Green. The closest Spencer ever came to prog in any sense of the word was when he did a cover of a NICE song which he played quietly on piano and gave it a flow of Folk influence.
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