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^^With a population smaller than Minnesota, the density of relatively known progressive rock acts from Norway is probably unmatched. That's unless there's one modern, profilic prog rock act from either Liechtenstein, San Marino or Andorra...
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It wouldn't surprise me if Norway has the greatest prog density per capita.

But if we are just measuring by diversity, the the U.S. does cover a broad stylistic range.

On the other hand, there are 'successes' from all around the world that it would unfair to label a most successful country. I just glanced at my 2023 list, and there are artists and band members from the U.S, U.K., Canada, Norway, Taiwan, France, Sweden, Japan, among others.
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Per Capita means per person in the country. Lichtenstein has a very small population. Percentage wise, it could have one of the highest rates of prog fan to not prog fan in the world.
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^I don't know of any prog (modern or classic) from Lichtenstein.
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I thought it was, per capita, Liechtenstein.
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Norway...if you're talking (Prog per capita)
America's population is 65 times higher than Norway's.
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^I think the broad nature of prog and prog-adjacent styles of music coming out of North America cannot be understated. Diversity matters. 

If you're looking for music that sounds like classic era prog and is, conversely, not quite so adventurous or fresh (but still expertly played), I supposed Scandinavia, especially Norway. And also prog death/black metal stuff, but fresh new groups from Norway were more prominent in the 90s for those styles.

I'm more often lookin for some fresh meat as of late, so retro stuff just isn't amazing me at the moment. Just because a band uses 70s analog instruments doesn't make it automatically worth my admiration. That being said, I still think most of those bands play some great music.
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I don;t know, but...

Not thinking in regards to sales, but for this millenium, I would have thought the US would surely be contender due to the wide variety of prog spectrum music being produced. It seems very robust.

Active this milleium bands/artists like Secret Chiefs 3, Kayo Dot, Swans, Tool, John Zorn, The Mars Volta, Nine Inch Nails, Agalloch, Prog Folk related people like Sufjan Stevens and Joanna Newsom.
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It's definitely either Sweden or Norway imo. 

Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - January 08 2024 at 16:19
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

The question is open-ended. By modern, are we walking about 1980 and later? 1990 and later? 2000 and later? 2020 and later?

post-1990s

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

If we're talking about sales, I suspect it would be UK.

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Originally posted by mathman0806 mathman0806 wrote:

If you measure success by number of artists, variety of styles, musicianship, and quality of music, the USA does well in these areas. If you are looking success as album and ticket sales, maybe not.

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The question is open-ended. By modern, are we walking about 1980 and later? 1990 and later? 2000 and later? 2020 and later?

In recent years I have found the most quality coming from the avant and eclectic bands from the US and France. I want to also add Japan because everything Tatsuya Yoshida touches is gold, but I don't think the quantity is as much as those two countries.

If we're talking about sales, I suspect it would be UK. If we're talking about overall from 1990 onwards, I'd be inclined to say Sweden and Italy.

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I think France has to be in consideration with the entire Dur et Doux roster making waves in recent years. https://duretdoux.bandcamp.com/
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Norway by miles
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If it’s a numbers game, they should perhaps be adjusted for population numbers.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Nowadays, I'd say USA


How?! Confused Other than some fusion and some progressive metal, I don't see it. 
If we look only at the Coniguliaro brothers output of music. Wyxz, In-Dreamview, The Filibuster Saloon, Wippy Bonstack, and Sun Colored Chair. All these projects are a breath of fresh air for the prog world. None are fusion or progressive metal. Of course, there is plenty more. What has Scandinavian prog given us but mostly retro bands?

What country do you choose, Cristi?

I honestly do not know. I also find the question unimportant. The country an artist is from does not matter much to me. If I enjoy the music, that's all that matters. How would I even assess the most successful country? Is it the number of bands that have become popular? Confused The country with the biggest number of popular bands is the most successful country?! Confused


Edited by Cristi - January 08 2024 at 12:09
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Nowadays, I'd say USA


How?! Confused Other than some fusion and some progressive metal, I don't see it. 
If we look only at the Coniguliaro brothers output of music. Eyeless Owl, Wyxz, In-Dreamview, The Filibuster Saloon, Wippy Bonstack, and Sun Colored Chair. All these projects are a breath of fresh air for the prog world. None are fusion or progressive metal. Of course, there is plenty more. What has Scandinavian prog given us but mostly retro bands?

What country do you choose, Cristi?

Edited by Grumpyprogfan - January 08 2024 at 11:36
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Frets N Worries Frets N Worries wrote:

Nowadays, I'd say USA


How?! Confused Other than some fusion and some progressive metal, I don't see it. 


The U.S. has a number of contemporary bands producing quality prog in a wide variety of styles. It sort of comes down to what one means by successful.

If you measure success by number of artists, variety of styles, musicianship, and quality of music, the USA does well in these areas. If you are looking success as album and ticket sales, maybe not.
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