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Posted: June 25 2016 at 02:29
Tillerman88 wrote:
lazland wrote:
In fact, I welcome very much the fact that all bets are off, and suddenly politics has become dynamic and interesting again. All possibilities are now open.
A lesson from yesterday. For the first time in many years, every single vote counted. Every single one, without fear or favour, and the people of the country voted in their droves to celebrate that fact, whether you agree with the result, or not. What a refreshing thing, eh? How we could properly transform our politics and country if every single election or vote carried as much weight. When it did, the (mostly lay) people (on the matter), by a clear majority, took the opportunity to deliver a massive great big raspberry to our ruling establishment. Two fingers up, and sod the consequences.
So, 'to each his own' is just all I can get from your pretty jingoistic thoughts, IMO.
Alas, it seems to stand for the majority of your people... If I'm wrong, tell me then who to blame for this Europe's fate (not yours too??) if not who decided for this damn 'voted' referendum?? 'Cause those who lost proved to be too dumb to face the ones who ran a much more dynamic, interesting and clever 'campaign' throughout the whole UK regions.........simple as that .
Sigh..... I have not made any jingoistic statements on this, or any other, thread.
Further, you are, of course, right. It is absolutely and utterly shocking when you give those ignorant, lay, unwashed, masses a say in running the country. Ignorant buggers, the lot of them, eh?
Thus, the liberal mentality.
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Posted: June 25 2016 at 01:55
Atavachron wrote:
Interesting, but how does that square with his vision of a United States of Europe? Maybe just a pipedream...
Churchill appeared to contradict himself quite often, but that is because he was smarter than most politicians then and now.
In is Zurich speech he called for a "kind of" United States of Europe and even said that "The structure of the United States of Europe, if well and truly built, will be such as to make the material strength of a single state less important. Small nations will count as much as large ones and gain their honour by their contribution to the common cause." ... which kind of sounds like the current EU.
However, he wasn't talking about a system of governance (or at least a system with a central governing body). He envisioned the USofE as a union of European nations in the same general form as the United Nations (he even obliquely refers to that in his speech by way of the Atlantic Charter), with no central governing body and not like a national Union (as in India), a Federation (as in USA) or a Unity (as in the UK). [In that regard the EU is at present a Confederation].
/edit: Note that in the quote from 1953 he said "if we must choose" - (that is, given an either-or choice), in the Zurich speech he advocated having all options (United Europe, United Nations and British Commonwealth of Nations).
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 22:50
BaldFriede wrote:
The Brexit may take place again on a smaller scale in the UK. Maybe there will be a Scexit and a Nexit for the UK. Then the United Kingdom will turn into Dissected Kingdom.
Perhaps we'll have The United Kingdom of Scotland and Northern Ireland, and The United Kingdom of England and Wales ? (Should "United" be in quotes, there?)
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 20:16
Epignosis wrote:
Lindsay Lohan apparently has an opinion on this matter.
"Like, the Brits should leave Britain. I, like, never cared for their drug policies, ya know? It's like when George Washington beat the Redheads at that Gettysburg address. They, like, went to Canadia after that. Which was cool for us."
Edited by The Dark Elf - June 24 2016 at 20:19
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 20:03
The Dark Elf wrote:
Dean wrote:
The T wrote:
If UKIP wins, You keep that sh*t.
We already have our own...
No kidding there, UKIP and the Tea Party are equally nasty. Now, if only we could ship Nigel out to Alaska....
What you also have is a "Boris":
...and since our Boris was born in New York you're welcome to him too.
It's funny, Dean, I had thought to post comparative photographs of these two demagogic twits, but I was too lazy. I thank you for contributing further to my slothfulness.
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 18:05
lazland wrote:
^ thanks for that supremely balanced view, Luca.
Can anyone find, and post, a link to a video, or photo failing the vid, to a prostate farting old retard? I will not rest until I get to see one in action
Here's one contemplating the Brexit vote:
And here are several celebrating after the vote:
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 17:57
Dean wrote:
The T wrote:
If UKIP wins, You keep that sh*t.
We already have our own...
No kidding there, UKIP and the Tea Party are equally nasty. Now, if only we could ship Nigel out to Alaska....
What you also have is a "Boris":
...and since our Boris was born in New York you're welcome to him too.
It's funny, Dean, I had thought to post comparative photographs of these two demagogic twits, but I was too lazy. I thank you for contributing further to my slothfulness.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 17:31
lazland wrote:
In fact, I welcome very much the fact that all bets are off, and suddenly politics has become dynamic and interesting again. All possibilities are now open.
A lesson from yesterday. For the first time in many years, every single vote counted. Every single one, without fear or favour, and the people of the country voted in their droves to celebrate that fact, whether you agree with the result, or not. What a refreshing thing, eh? How we could properly transform our politics and country if every single election or vote carried as much weight. When it did, the (mostly lay) people (on the matter), by a clear majority, took the opportunity to deliver a massive great big raspberry to our ruling establishment. Two fingers up, and sod the consequences.
So, 'to each his own' is just all I can get from your pretty jingoistic thoughts, IMO.
Alas, it seems to stand for the majority of your people... If I'm wrong, tell me then who to blame for this Europe's fate (not yours too??) if not who decided for this damn 'voted' referendum?? 'Cause those who lost proved to be too dumb to face the ones who ran a much more dynamic, interesting and clever 'campaign' throughout the whole UK regions.........simple as that .
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 16:53
The old guys are the little englanders remembering when Britain was great. The youth have limited job opportunities and are looking for work across Europe.
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 16:40
Dean wrote:
Luca Pacchiarini wrote:
We should call back all our cooks, then after 3 months you'll be crying to get back in again
As a EU supporter and Remain voter I can honestly say you can keep your stroppy cooks and chefs, and your "authentic" trattoria and pizzeria, we can live without them. British chefs and English food were never bad, (just look in any Edwardian or Victorian cook book), it just suffered greatly for the first half of the 20th century because of two world wars and a world depression - we simply forgot what good food and good produce tasted like because we couldn't have it.
Heck yeah-- Yorkshire pudding, Stilton, fish&chips, Shepard's Pie, Cotswold just to start; British fare is among the most tasty and evolved. As much as I love Italian, Brit cuisine is far more developed.
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Posted: June 24 2016 at 15:44
The Brexit may take place again on a smaller scale in the UK. Maybe there will be a Scexit and a Nexit for the UK. Then the United Kingdom will turn into Dissected Kingdom.
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