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Posted: May 21 2016 at 09:39

Dun should be in the top 100

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Posted: May 21 2016 at 09:12

I never loved The Yes Album and can no longer stomach much of it.

I have never been able to make it through Larks Tongues in Aspic.

I love female vocalists—especially when they’re operatic.

I feel that here are prejudices against women in prog world.

I adore Focus. Nova, too! (Akkerman and Rustici are both amazing)

I adore Frank Zappa, but I don’t like his songs much.

I love the work of Brian Eno, Robin Guthrie, and Prince.

The only band that has never let me down is Everything But the Girl

I would be content if the only music on earth were Progressive Electronic.

I wish there was more of the light, silly, upbeat “Canterbury spirit” in prog.

I never met an instrument I didn’t like—except for the SynthAxe and the saxophone.

I have loved everything Trevor Horn touched.

I think Ryuichi Sakamoto is one of the greatest humans to have ever walked the planet.

I think Matthew Parmenter a far superior singer, performer than Peter Hammill

I wish all albums were independently categorized by sub-genre instead of one category per artist

I loved George Michael’s music (and voice).

I love Jon Anderson lyrics! (In fact, they’re the only ones that make sense to me!)

I am forever embarrassed by how Anglo-centric Americans are.

I love/prefer vocals in native languages.

I am a YouTube “SpaceAmbient” addict.

John McLaughlin and Diana Krall are the two greatest concert performers I’ve ever been in the presence of.

Novella is my favorite Renaissance album.

I think Stereolab belongs on PA. (Heck! They’re even referenced in the Post Rock definition!)

This is addictive!

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Posted: May 21 2016 at 08:53

jude111 wrote:

Flaming Lips are a prog band. I don't understand why they're not here in PA, but Mercury Rev and Bjork are.

YES!! Agreed, BIG TIME!

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Posted: May 21 2016 at 08:20

Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen is a highly enjoyable, fresh and original album that I'd put above at least half of King Crimson's studio albums.

Edited by Lewian - May 21 2016 at 08:21

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Posted: May 21 2016 at 05:32

What is classic rock? Is it a style? Hey radio, play a song by ACDC, Fleetwood Mac, Motorhead, Simon and Garfunkel or Styx, they're all classic rock and therefore sound (approximately the same).

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Posted: May 21 2016 at 05:31

miamiscot wrote:

I hate The Wall.

As a follow-up of Animals, yes.

And The Lamb is The Wall of Genesis.

New album! "A Moment of Thought"

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Posted: May 21 2016 at 00:26

andreol263 wrote:

I don't think so, in this decade were created bands so good that destroyed the great majority of some classics(Il Tempio de Clessidre, Egonon, La Conscienza di Zeno, Il Bascio della Medusa) and it's a good thing to know that Italian prog scene in the sixties and seventies is MUCH more diverse than the mainstream bands that sound the same(Banco, PFM, Le Orme), try to hear the proto-black-metal-prog from Jacula - In Cauda Semper Stat Venenum, and many other extremely dark bands(Apoteosi,Pholas Dactylus,etc..), the mind-blowing(literally!) Maledetti from Area, the psychodelic-proto-eletronic masterpiece Sulle corde di Aries from Franco Battiato and many, many others bands. i love French prog scene too: Pulsar, Ange, Pentacle, Magma, Dün,Art Zoyd,etc.., but for me, Italian prog scene is the best from the Universe!

It's always good and welcome to see any more Italian prog junkies in here (soon we shall form a mighty army!), but unless I'm reading one sentence wrong - "Italian prog scene in the sixties and seventies is MUCH more diverse than the mainstream bands that sound the same(Banco, PFM, Le Orme)" - I couldn't disagree more, because Banco, PFM and Le Orme don't sound a thing like each-other, not even slightly!

Unless you just meant that the REAL adventurous stuff in Italian Prog was to be found in the more obscure albums and bands? I which case I agree, but not to discredit the above three bands. They all had different elements that are perfect introductions to the RPI sound that make them ideal for people starting to explore the Italian stuff

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 23:00

Wow, this thread is the best! Excelent idea! Clap

DeadSouls wrote:

I don't like Yes.

What? You'd have been banned from Proegressive Ears for this post asap! LOL

Seriously: I'm not very surprised. I didn't like Yes when I was younger. I listened to Yes Album whne I was a teen and was like: "what the hack is this?No hooks, just pointless noodling!" And I loved Tiles artwork very much, and expected some "grande music" there becasue of it, similar to King Arthur from Rick Big smile

, but what I heard was.... After that I didn't go back to Yes for decades. Ironically, Bill Martin's book made me think that I was probably missing something.

Originally posted by Upbeat Tango Monday

Upbeat Tango Monday wrote:

-Pink Floyd makes pretty rudimentary three-minute pop songs and extend them with wailing sounds. Also, they are not prog.
-ELP and their albums are severely underrated because of the silly argument they weren't "serious enough".

Of course, this is exactly what Pink Floyd did! (and Greatful Dead too, I guess). That's why they were so commercially successful. But even though I agree with you, I still like a few of their albums very much becasue the way they extended thier simple songs with all od those sound effects, synths, etc.

ELP albums... Al of their "classic" albums, except the first, are littered with silly honky-tonky songs that I always skip.

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DDPascalDD wrote:

I think Rush is pretty boring, except Hemispheres (song) and La Villa Strangiato. I know there are quite some Rush fans here, but I just find it quite boring, more of a classic rock band who made longer songs as well.

Exactly the same way with me.

Me, too!

Oh, I feel like a black sheep now, but I thnk that Hemispheres (song) is most boring Rush song. Embarrassed

However, I must agree that Rush produced quite a few boring albums.

BrufordFreak, always liked your avatar: I'm crazy about Dan Simmons and Hyperion series too ! Star

Edited by Booba Kastorsky - May 20 2016 at 23:05

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 22:24

Atavachron wrote:

LittleBig wrote:

^ I don't listen to Yes for the vocals, that's kinda the low point of the band

Yeah and I don't drink coffee for the caffeine.

Oh, thanks so much for a few minutes of healthy laugh!

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 22:02

ALotOfBottle wrote:

Exactly the same way with me.

Me, too!

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 21:41

- The Krauts beat out the Brits, Yanks and, well, anyone when it comes to progressive rock

Anything is better than the Brits and Yanks Tongue

- French prog - Pulsar, Lard Free, Heldon, Magma - beats the hell out of Italian symphonic prog

I don't think so, in this decade were created bands so good that destroyed the great majority of some classics(Il Tempio de Clessidre, Egonon, La Conscienza di Zeno, Il Bascio della Medusa) and it's a good thing to know that Italian prog scene in the sixties and seventies is MUCH more diverse than the mainstream bands that sound the same(Banco, PFM, Le Orme), try to hear the proto-black-metal-prog from Jacula - In Cauda Semper Stat Venenum, and many other extremely dark bands(Apoteosi,Pholas Dactylus,etc..), the mind-blowing(literally!) Maledetti from Area, the psychodelic-proto-eletronic masterpiece Sulle corde di Aries from Franco Battiato and many, many others bands. i love French prog scene too: Pulsar, Ange, Pentacle, Magma, Dün,Art Zoyd,etc.., but for me, Italian prog scene is the best from the Universe!

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 21:00

LittleBig wrote:

^ I don't listen to Yes for the vocals, that's kinda the low point of the band

Yeah and I don't drink coffee for the caffeine.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 20:48

I hate The Wall.

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 09:21

Great idea for a thread! I'll throw my hat in the ring:

- The Grateful Dead is the most "progressive" rock band ever.....ever!

- The first two Crimso albums are two-star records at best....Lizard thru Red is their breadbasket

- Ian could have pared TAAB down to a sweet seven minute number

- Jethro Tull's first two albums are better than anything that followed

- Same is true for Yes.....the first three are brilliant and CTTE is fantastic; the rest.....meh.

- Same is true of ELP.....the first two albums solidified their sound, and they never improved on it

- The Krauts beat out the Brits, Yanks and, well, anyone when it comes to progressive rock

- French prog - Pulsar, Lard Free, Heldon, Magma - beats the hell out of Italian symphonic prog

- Obscured by Clouds is the best PF album.....the More soundtrack is better than the first two PF albums, studio Ummaguma and most of AHM

- The Wall is tripe.....only Gilmour's occasional burst of guitar saves it from the rubble heap

- Syd Barret was style over substance.....some nice pop ditties but not much more

- Rush.....formulaic and derivative.....Yes + Zep = Rush

- The 80s were a great decade for pop music.....prog, not so much

- Duke, Abacab, Genesis and Invisible Touch are outstanding 80s pop albums

- The Strawbs were better off without Wakeman

- Hackett > Howe

- Anthony Banks, Rick Wakeman and Keith Emerson.....solo stuff was dreadful

- Bloodrock is more "prog" than Zep, the Purps and the Sabs.

- Gilgamesh and Alan Gowan are the unsung heroes of Canterbury rock

- Phil Collins was a motherhumper of a drummer.....better than Chester, miles beyond Alan White and Carl Palmer.....of the classic prog era drummers, only Bruford could match Phil

- Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane the worst 70s Bowie albums

- Jack Bruce was the most talented member of Cream.....and his worst solo album tops Clapton's best

- Neo-prog rarely rises to the levels that fan boys fetishize......most of it has no soul

- Three Sides Live is the best Genesis live album

- Hillage's electronic albums beat out his post-Gong "rock" solo records

- Yoko Ono was more talented than the four Beatles combined

- Keith Moon lost it after Quadrophenia

- Robert Wyatt should have left the Soft Machine with Kevin Ayers

- Soft Machine 6 and 7 are their best albums

- The high point of Robert Fripp's post-Red career has been his production and playing on the first and third Roches records

- The most fortunate event in VGG's career was the first break up....the idea of reforming and not looking back brought about the conditions to record their three best albums

- I see Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel working together in the near future....don't know why, just a hunch. Hackett is so versatile and emotive.....and Gabriel is always searching for sounds....hmmmm

Man, this is addictive!

Edited by Intruder - May 20 2016 at 14:35

I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 08:43

Doug: A lot of people don't get Can of course, including those who enjoy a lot of other Krautrock. I did ... eventually. Tago Mago was one of the hardest albums for me to like that I felt I should like. Ege Bamyasi and others proved less of a challenge to me. Can is I think the band I know like a lot that took the most effort. The Residents also took some effort.

Even though I like Can a lot, you'll find me spinning, to name one I know you love, Dyzan a lot more.

Sorry for the snipping:

Micky wrote:

Hercules wrote:

1) Robert Fripp is absurdly overrated as a guitarist.

only if one tried to put him onto a shelve I've seen little of.. a great guitarist.. in a genre filled with them. Nothing more.. nothing less. Didn't I read an interview once where he said he thought Greg Lake was a better guitarist than him.. so what does that make Lake? LOL

Robert Fripp has said that he is not a naturally talented musician (or words to the effect). To me Robert Fripp is not that strong technically when compared to many of the greats (be it in Prog, jazz, classical music...), but I do find him very creative, and I value creativity (and individuality) over technical prowess generally. I'm sure some think the whole Frippertronics thing pretentious. I would take him over most of the guitarists in Prog who may be proficient but seem to lack any uniqueness in their approach.

Robert Fripp over, say, Steve Rothery any day for me based on what I know.

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Posted: May 20 2016 at 08:19

In the case of Libra's debut album, PFM's Photos of Ghosts, and Contamination by Il Rovescio Della Medaglia, I actually prefer those English sung versions better than the Italian sung counterparts.

I don't really get Can.

My favourite Wallenstein record is No More Love, from 1977. It's even better than what came before it by the band.

Passport is one of my top five favourite groups of all time.

I don't like Soft Machine's first two albums, and think the group's best efforts are Seven, and Bundles.

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