Liberals Vs. Conservatives

FL elections are a fail. Nobody knows what one's voting for. 

And, again, being "born in privilege" doesn't necessarily make you a specific type of person just as much as being born in poverty doesn't necessarily make you a thief or a bum. 

By the way, most of your enlightened "liberals" are college students. Don;t you think most of them were born in privilege? It's easy to be so generous with other people's money and devote so much time to "deep thinking" when it is Daddy who paid for your entire education. 

I'm with this guy and voted no in the poll. 

Just a few years ago (when I was more like that comfy liberal The T describes) I would have voted yes. 

"Empathy" is the new stupid sacred word of liberals. They think having "empathy" is a substitute for action. For real action. 

Your head is as thick as a brick. You have never managed to get into it the notion that most of the people here that you brand as the spoiled rich conservatives come from quite diffirent backgrounds. Even from other countries, countries where what you in your comfy liberal bed call "poor" would be considered wealthy. 

Most liberals like you can afford to be so high minded and let others do the job. I'm quite sure most of the people you hate (because you DO hate) are just as poor or poorer than the typical welfare recipient that you want to take care of from cradle to grave with other people's money (not yours of course). 

Anyway, at least in this website, it's quite clear from years of being here that the most intelligent people tend to be on the side you usually don't support. Others like you can afford to act like pre-teens, seeing everything black or white, and agreeing with all the popular notions, and seem "enlightened". Oh yes, it takes courage and intelligence to try and understand and oppose things like minimum wages or cradle-to-grave welfare. It's much easier and friend-making to say "social justice"! "minimum wage has to be raised!", "we need a safety net!" than saying the opposite. It doesn't really take much intelligence to repeat those ideas. A trained monkey can. But to try and understand things and read and study and see for yourself why certain things would probably be better FOR EVERYBODY if done in a different way takes work, not the lazy self-gratifying ease of  just always siding with what sounds popular and humane, even if it actually is not. 

Conservatives and libertarians want to help the poor in a different way that they see as more effective, namely, the elimination of excessive taxes and regulation in order that the economy, being more free, may thrive more and benefit all, poor and rich alike.  There are regulations that are necessary to prevent the oppression of the poor by corporations, but the laws we have now do nothing but regulate companies into the ground and create a culture of dependency among the poor.  It's business, after all, that creates jobs for the poor, which gives them money to live and save and hopefully eventually climb out of their poverty.  If the government were to operate on the principles of freedom and free markets (which the country was built upon), it would give many poor people the chance to get jobs and to support themselves and their families instead of relying upon government aid.  The lazy people who don't want to work and rely upon the government for their livelihood would reap the due rewards of their actions, and the remaining number who genuinely are stuck and can't dig themselves out of poverty no matter how hard they work could be helped by charity and, if necessary, by a limited, selective aid program by state and city governments.

The only thing that this redistribution of wealth does for the American poor is to train them to be dependent on the government; it doesn't help them escape poverty, it just makes them think that they couldn't survive without their big daddy government that provides them with food, housing, and education.  Meanwhile, because of over-taxation, large and small business owners can't provide the poor with jobs anymore.  The idea that the government should take some people's money and give it to others is essentially a socialist principle, and anyone with a basic knowledge of history can see how socialism has worked out for nations in the past.