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Anthony
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Posted: May 03 2012 at 13:32 |
The whole discography of Steven Wilson is overrated.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 01:58 |
^ Gotcha.
On the topic: I believe I didn't make my list of top ten overrated ones. That's 'cause I ain't got one. No such thing as an overrated song here on PA.
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 01:26 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I hate Larks Tongues in Aspic, but this doesn't mean it's overrated, if so many Progheads believe it's a masterpiece, it must have something that I haven't been able to find.
In my dictionary: Overrated: Why do all this idiots love this trash if I believe it's crap? |
These two statements are kind of hard to discern from each other. I believe by 'trash' you do not mean an album that has something other people see but you don't. |
You don't get my point 
I believe that the term Overrated is arrogant and shouldn't be used to define art.
I hate LTiA, but I will never believe it's trash, simply I think most people find something in that album that I am not able to find.
BTW: I never use the word trash to describe an album (that would be offensive to the people that like it), and never use the word overrated (at least in several years).
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 02 2012 at 01:30
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: May 02 2012 at 01:19 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I hate Larks Tongues in Aspic, but this doesn't mean it's overrated, if so many Progheads believe it's a masterpiece, it must have something that I haven't been able to find.
In my dictionary: Overrated: Why do all this idiots love this trash if I believe it's crap? |
These two statements are kind of hard to discern from each other. I believe by 'trash' you do not mean an album that has something other people see but you don't.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 23:08 |
The word overrated is overrated.
I hate Larks Tongues in Aspic, but this doesn't mean it's overrated, if so many Progheads believe it's a masterpiece, it must have something that I haven't been able to find.
In my dictionary:
Overrated: Why do all this idiots love this trash if I believe it's crap? Underrated: Why do all this idiots don't like this marvelous song if I believe it's a masterpiece?
That's why I hate the term overrated and don't like too much the term underrated
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - May 02 2012 at 01:28
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Master of Time
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 22:46 |
King Manuel wrote:
Master of Time wrote:
There's not really any specific songs I find overrated but certain albums and bands I do.
Albums:
Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Genesis: Wind & Wuthering
King Crimson: Red
Van Der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts
Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom
Jethro Tull: Aqualung
Steve Hackett: Spectral Mornings
Neal Morse: Sola Scriptura
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Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
The Mars Volta
O Terco
Emerson Lake and Palmer
Phideaux
I would like to say I do find Genesis, VDGG, Jethro Tull, Steve Hackett, and Neal Morse to be some of my favorites, overall. Just not those albums. |
I can wholeheartedly agree with a number of albums and bands you listed, but also have to strongly disagree with some.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway – Agree, I love early Genesis but the Lamb just does not get me excited.
Also call myself a big Tull fan but Aqualung I rate as one of their weaker albums. It kind of bores me.
King Crimson: Red – totally overated!!!
Porcupine Tree & Mars Volta: Couldn’t agree more!
Van Der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts – This is a masterpiece, actually underated!
Pink Floyd: not all they did was great but all in all they deserve their place in music history!
Phideaux to me can do nothing wrong. II love all there albums. Can listen to them anytime, in any mood. They always put me in an exhaled mood! |
With Pawn Hearts, PF, and Phideaux, spacey psychedelic stuff just doesn't do it for me, and the avant garde tendencies of Pawn Hearts is just too much for me, but I can see how others would enjoy them. Also I'm glad someone agrees with me on Red, The Lamb, and Porcupine Tree.
Edited by Master of Time - May 02 2012 at 20:41
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King Manuel
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Posted: May 01 2012 at 10:52 |
Master of Time wrote:
There's not really any specific songs I find overrated but certain albums and bands I do.
Albums:
Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway
Genesis: Wind & Wuthering
King Crimson: Red
Van Der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts
Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom
Jethro Tull: Aqualung
Steve Hackett: Spectral Mornings
Neal Morse: Sola Scriptura
Bands:
Pink Floyd
Porcupine Tree
The Mars Volta
O Terco
Emerson Lake and Palmer
Phideaux
I would like to say I do find Genesis, VDGG, Jethro Tull, Steve Hackett, and Neal Morse to be some of my favorites, overall. Just not those albums. |
I can wholeheartedly agree with a number of albums and bands you listed, but also have to strongly disagree with some.
The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway – Agree, I love early Genesis but the Lamb just does not get me excited.
Also call myself a big Tull fan but Aqualung I rate as one of their weaker albums. It kind of bores me.
King Crimson: Red – totally overated!!!
Porcupine Tree & Mars Volta: Couldn’t agree more!
Van Der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts – This is a masterpiece, actually underated!
Pink Floyd: not all they did was great but all in all they deserve their place in music history!
Phideaux to me can do nothing wrong. II love all there albums. Can listen to them anytime, in any mood. They always put me in an exhaled mood!
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: April 28 2012 at 00:26 |
Horizons wrote:
It's my favorite song off of SEBTP. |
+1 
bytor2112 wrote:
Its funny because over the last month or so since I posted that, I have really been listneing to Cinema Show and I was very suprised when it started growing on me. I understand completely why it has been given hight praise from the prog community, its completely stunning! |
Yup  . I think its second half is Banks, Rutherford, and Collins' 2nd finest hour (1st being The Cinema Show), particularly near the end.
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Horizons
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Posted: April 27 2012 at 22:47 |
It's my favorite song off of SEBTP.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Eria Tarka
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Posted: April 27 2012 at 22:20 |
Horizons wrote:
bytor2112 wrote:
Genesis - The Lamia - The Cinema Show Rush - The Entire 1st side of Moving Pictures. King Crimson - Starless Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon (album) - Wish You Were Here (album) - Animals (album) - The Wall (album) VDGG - Plague of Lighthouse Keepers Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (This song is very overrated, it's not musically interesting it's just long) |
Surprisingly i disagree with most of these. The Genesis songs listed are great - The Cinema Show being apart of the superior side of Selling England. Moving Pictures is really great, but Permanent Waves executes accessibilty mixed with prog much more sucessful. Pertaining to the Side 1 section - Limelight and YYZ are absolute Rush classics. Starless is not overrated. In the Court of the Crimson King is though. I think people take it's influence into the rating of the album too heavily. Pink Floyd's The Wall is the main culprite of being overrated. Dark Side of the Moon is good - but heh. Plauge of Lighthouse Keepers is amazing. Thick as a Brick sucks. And i completly agree with you - it's really boring. |
Its funny because over the last month or so since I posted that, I have really been listneing to Cinema Show and I was very suprised when it started growing on me. I understand completely why it has been given hight praise from the prog community, its completely stunning!
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catfood03
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 22:51 |
"Comfortably Numb"
Not so much overrated, but overplayed (on radio). I'd be ok if I never heard that song again.
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Master of Time
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Posted: April 17 2012 at 22:44 |
There's not really any specific songs I find overrated but certain albums and bands I do. Albums: Genesis: The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway Genesis: Wind & Wuthering King Crimson: Red Van Der Graaf Generator: Pawn Hearts Robert Wyatt: Rock Bottom Jethro Tull: Aqualung Steve Hackett: Spectral Mornings Neal Morse: Sola Scriptura Bands: Pink Floyd Porcupine Tree The Mars Volta O Terco Emerson Lake and Palmer Phideaux
I would like to say I do find Genesis, VDGG, Jethro Tull, Steve Hackett, and Neal Morse to be some of my favorites, overall. Just not those albums.
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Horizons
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 19:10 |
PabstRibbon wrote:
Everything from ELP except the Tarkus epic and their debut |
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 18:57 |
PabstRibbon wrote:
Everything from ELP except the Tarkus epic |
I'm not the biggest ELP fan myself, but not even Karn Evil 9!  In my opinion, the song is a masterpiece.
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Fox On The Rocks
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 18:49 |
Yeah.. I love all the songs on that list! I sort of agree about the Can song, though. They have much better ones.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 14:15 |
NickHall wrote:
page isnt big enough to contain all the over-rated prog songs |
That's right. Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, even though it's been said, like, a gazillion times before, no matter what anyone says about your POV.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - March 17 2012 at 14:16
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 14:07 |
infocat wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
- Starless - King Crimson
- Killer - VDGG
- The Camera Eye - Rush
- Master Builder - Gong
- Halleluwah - Can
- Peaches En Regallia - Zappa
- Firth Of Fifth - Genesis
- Octavarium - Dream Theater
- Us and Them - Pink Floyd
- And You And I - Yes
Just one per artist....but there are more.
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Wow! Wow. So wrong on pretty much all of those!

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like 80 %
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There be dragons
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 14:04 |
infocat wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
- Starless - King Crimson
- Killer - VDGG
- The Camera Eye - Rush
- Master Builder - Gong
- Halleluwah - Can
- Peaches En Regallia - Zappa
- Firth Of Fifth - Genesis
- Octavarium - Dream Theater
- Us and Them - Pink Floyd
- And You And I - Yes
Just one per artist....but there are more.
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Wow! Wow. So wrong on pretty much all of those!

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... or half of them, at least.
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infocat
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 14:02 |
Snow Dog wrote:
- Starless - King Crimson
- Killer - VDGG
- The Camera Eye - Rush
- Master Builder - Gong
- Halleluwah - Can
- Peaches En Regallia - Zappa
- Firth Of Fifth - Genesis
- Octavarium - Dream Theater
- Us and Them - Pink Floyd
- And You And I - Yes
Just one per artist....but there are more.
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Wow! Wow. So wrong on pretty much all of those!
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Snow Dog
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Posted: March 17 2012 at 05:20 |
- Starless - King Crimson
- Killer - VDGG
- The Camera Eye - Rush
- Master Builder - Gong
- Halleluwah - Can
- Peaches En Regallia - Zappa
- Firth Of Fifth - Genesis
- Octavarium - Dream Theater
- Us and Them - Pink Floyd
- And You And I - Yes
Just one per artist....but there are more.
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