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CrypticRick
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 17:55 |
Kerry Livgren Peter Gabriel Roger Waters Roine Stolt Neil Peart
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Rick Duncan
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Klogg
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Posted: June 07 2010 at 15:25 |
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SayYes
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 05:45 |
Ian Anderson
Peter Gabriel Peter Hammill
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cstack3
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 01:19 |
Peter Sinfield, Richard Palmer-James, Jon Anderson, Peter Gabriel, and David Cousins top my list.
Oh, don't forget Thijs van Leer! *yodel yodel yodel yodel bump bump bah!!*
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 22:46 |
Gabriel, Fish, Waters, Ian Anderson.
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moshkito
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 19:36 |
Hi,
So strange to see Fish listed as a lyricist ... his main gift is that he is a wonderful actor with words ... and made Peter Gabriel look like a kid in the zoo of costumes ... that can't sing!
Edited by moshkito - June 04 2010 at 19:36
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moshkito
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 19:34 |
aginor wrote:
... Goodley and Creme and Eric Stewart and Graham Gouldman fantastic singer songwriters
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Edited by moshkito - June 04 2010 at 19:35
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Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com
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nahnite
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 19:11 |
1/Neil Peart
2/Peter Sinfield
3/Peter Gabriel
4/Jon Anderson
5/John Petrucci (better known as a guitarist, but the dude writes some AMAZING lyrics!)
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Icarium
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 17:39 |
Hodgson / Davies Goodley and Creme and Eric Stewart and Graham Gouldman fantastic singer songwriters
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Kashmir75
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 16:36 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Anthony H. wrote:
What prog musician do you think writes the best lyrics? I'd go with Peter Hammill; runner-ups include Neal Peart, Steven Wilson, John Anderson, and Kevin Moore. |
With Hammill, that's my top three, followed by Gabriel
who's Kevin Moore, and what is Steven Wilson doing here |
1) The anchor that weighted down Dream Theater to the ground, so they didnt go and start showing off. 2) Because he's the best modern prog lyricist, songwriter, singer, and guitarist!  
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Kashmir75
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 16:32 |
Jake Kobrin wrote:
Peter Hamill, Maynard James Keenan, Rodger Waters, Peter Sinfield.
If anyone says Steven Wilson, James LaBrie, Neil Peart, or Jon Anderson, I'm going to scream RAPE! 
f**k, didn't read the OP... Too late. 
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Just to annoy you, I will again! 
Steven Wilson is by far my favourite prog vocalist.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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UndercoverBoy
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 16:28 |
I didn't even have to think about this for a second. Peter Hammill.
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Zebedee
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 16:06 |
Ian Anderson, Fish, Roger Waters, Peter Gabriel.
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Friendship is like wetting your pants: everyone can see it, but only you can feel its warmth.
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Lizzy
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 15:31 |
The usual suspects in my list too: Ian Anderson, Roger Waters and the Peter holy trinity: Gabriel, Hammill and Sinfield.
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Property of Queen Productions...
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moshkito
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 15:06 |
Hi,
This is not an easy topic, because it tends to reach into favoritism and commercialism.
Take away some of those people and you have almost a no-list at all ... which tells you that there are not enough people listening to other things to even have any idea ... that there are other folks out there that also write songs, music and poetry.
Probably the best lyricist out there is Roy Harper. There is no second when it comes to the amount of poetryhe has written and sung about/with. If there is a second one out there, I would say Peter Hammill.
The third one, is a person that we don't like to discuss here because it isn't prog. But Bob Dylan is probably the only one that will be remembered forever for his words -- that will not be listed here!
In general, almost ALL rock music lyrics, progressive or otherwise, are pretentious and have very little literary value. The 20th century has been about breaking that down and I accept that and to me Roy, Peter and Bob are the TS Elliots, the veritable best poets of the century ... however, their medium in rock music is not (YET!) accepted as a proper literary and poetic medium that it should be treated with. I think this will change in the future.
All in all, Jon Anderson is a good lyricist, when the muse hits him, and a very bad lyricist when he is not into it and is simply doing "Yes music" ... it's just a song! Frank Zappa is a tough addition in terms of lyrics because a lot of his lyrics were actually improvised and added on many times over the songs, and sometimes some lyrics stuck and sometimes they didn't. Frank didn't necessarily sit down and write the lyrics on top of the 10 staffs of music! The stuff that Napoleon sings, he came up with, not Frank! It just fit the feeling and the nature of the music ... and Frank was intelligent enough to allow and help the music to shape itself off the lyrics and the words, something that most "lyricists" DO NOT do! And folks like Peter Hammill and Roy Harper made their living doing just that.
In terms of some of the other rock lyricists, there is too much words to a song, instead of poetry or real lyrics. And while poetry sometimes repeats things to make a point, the rock'n'roll use of codas and refrains to continuously say nothing about the song or the lyrics, is, eventually quite boring and not acceptable when it comes to "progressive music". Sorry ... Rush fails!
As I said above, this is a very tough area. I, personally do not think that some of the names mentioned are that important in terms of "literature" ... they maybe in rock music ... but a lot of rock music is going to be wasted because the ability of anyone to discuss the work intelligently and good sense ... and simply listing "favorites" is not a good show ... at all! Bob is not one of my favorites at all, but one can not deny the poetry ... and how others have been able to express it. Peter is self explanatory. Roy is even more so!
The rest ... not very good at all in my book!
Edited by moshkito - June 04 2010 at 15:18
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yanch
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 12:40 |
Ian Anderson, Peter Gabriel and Fish!
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Kojak
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 12:38 |
Maynard James Keenan - tops, Thom Yorke, Pete Sinfield....mmm, I'll add more if I can think of any..
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Morningrise
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 11:42 |
Ian Anderson, Peter Hammill, Peter Gabriel are the ones that come to my mind right now.
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Mr. Maestro
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 11:27 |
Roger Waters (before the Wall)
Neil Peart
Kerry Livgren
Peter Gabriel
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"I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...."
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lazland
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Posted: June 04 2010 at 11:05 |
1. Roger Waters 2. Fish 3. Steve Hogarth 4. Peter Gabriel 5. Neil Peart 6. Peter Hamill 7. Jon Anderson 8. Peter Sinfield 9. Thom Yorke 10. Roger Hodgson/Rick Davies
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