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M27Barney
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 14:58 |
Good CD...
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richardh
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 14:09 |
^ Darn it something else I must have
please people stop recommending stuff
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 02:41 |
A bit off-topic here (but relative) - just listening through to Ayreon's 'The Theory If Everything' , which features a Modular Moog solo from Keith. Sounds familiar .......(Blues Variation from the Pictures album). Emmo's still 'got it' ......
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verslibre
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 02:02 |
richardh wrote:
verslibre wrote:
Smith's live CD Root Down is absolutely essential if you love that organ and if you love good music, period. |
Go that on order |
Let us know when you spin it. It's a monster!
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richardh
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 01:15 |
Gerinski wrote:
Evolver wrote:
A new 40th anniversary edition of Brain Salad Surgery was released yerterday - 2 CDs and a DVD.
Disk 1: The original album remastered
Disk 2: The alternate Brain Salad Surgery: other mixes and takes from teh album, plus the Brain Salad Surgery and Apple Blossoms B-sides
DVD: 2014 Super Stereo Brain Salad Surgery remixed by Jakko Jakszyk - plus flac files of both mixes.
I haven't gotten all the way through it yet. |
I understand that the DVD does contain audio stuff only, no video, right?
For what you say I'm afraid that even as an ELP fan I'm not gonna spend my euros on this one... |
I don't blame you although to be fair the 3 disc package is quite nice and the alternative instrumental versions of KE9 3rd Impression are a must have for fans.
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Gerinski
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 01:06 |
Evolver wrote:
A new 40th anniversary edition of Brain Salad Surgery was released yerterday - 2 CDs and a DVD.
Disk 1: The original album remastered
Disk 2: The alternate Brain Salad Surgery: other mixes and takes from teh album, plus the Brain Salad Surgery and Apple Blossoms B-sides
DVD: 2014 Super Stereo Brain Salad Surgery remixed by Jakko Jakszyk - plus flac files of both mixes.
I haven't gotten all the way through it yet. |
I understand that the DVD does contain audio stuff only, no video, right?
For what you say I'm afraid that even as an ELP fan I'm not gonna spend my euros on this one...
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richardh
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Posted: July 07 2014 at 01:03 |
verslibre wrote:
RockHound wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
3 - Prog does has a tiny sliver of Jazz and R'n'B in its DNA but is for all intents and purposes unequivocally 'white' music that does not source its development from funk, soul, blues, motown, dance music or basic primal rock and roll. Without wishing to embroil us in undue controversy on an ELP appreciation thread, there is more than ample evidence to suggest that (exclusively white) music journalists in both the UK and USA have always had a covert racist agenda when it comes to bestowing their laurel wreaths on the heads of those they will subsequently decapitate before the month's out <span style="line-height: 1.2;"> | </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Oh yes - the irony!</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Emerson's organ playing is so deeply rooted in Jimmy Smith's blues/jazz style it's incredible. Smith and Emerson are two of my all-time favorite musicians, and they both wore their influences on their sleeves very proudly.</span> |
Keith's recalling of his presence at a Jimmy Smith set in a small downtown club (later in the night after ELP had played a large venue) is legendary. Apparently Keith really "stuck out" and chose to not remain for the entire set, but the guy was one of Keith's heroes and he wanted to make the effort to see him.
Smith's live CD Root Down is absolutely essential if you love that organ and if you love good music, period. |
Go that on order
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: July 06 2014 at 20:35 |
I appreciate ELP.
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verslibre
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Posted: July 06 2014 at 14:10 |
RockHound wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
3 - Prog does has a tiny sliver of Jazz and R'n'B in its DNA but is for all intents and purposes unequivocally 'white' music that does not source its development from funk, soul, blues, motown, dance music or basic primal rock and roll. Without wishing to embroil us in undue controversy on an ELP appreciation thread, there is more than ample evidence to suggest that (exclusively white) music journalists in both the UK and USA have always had a covert racist agenda when it comes to bestowing their laurel wreaths on the heads of those they will subsequently decapitate before the month's out <span style="line-height: 1.2;"> | </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;"></span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Oh yes - the irony!</span> <span style="line-height: 1.2;">Emerson's organ playing is so deeply rooted in Jimmy Smith's blues/jazz style it's incredible. Smith and Emerson are two of my all-time favorite musicians, and they both wore their influences on their sleeves very proudly.</span> |
Keith's recalling of his presence at a Jimmy Smith set in a small downtown club (later in the night after ELP had played a large venue) is legendary. Apparently Keith really "stuck out" and chose to not remain for the entire set, but the guy was one of Keith's heroes and he wanted to make the effort to see him.
Smith's live CD Root Down is absolutely essential if you love that organ and if you love good music, period.
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RockHound
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Posted: July 05 2014 at 12:42 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
3 - Prog does has a tiny sliver of Jazz and R'n'B in its DNA but is for all intents and purposes unequivocally 'white' music that does not source its development from funk, soul, blues, motown, dance music or basic primal rock and roll. Without wishing to embroil us in undue controversy on an ELP appreciation thread, there is more than ample evidence to suggest that (exclusively white) music journalists in both the UK and USA have always had a covert racist agenda when it comes to bestowing their laurel wreaths on the heads of those they will subsequently decapitate before the month's out
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Oh yes - the irony! Emerson's organ playing is so deeply rooted in Jimmy Smith's blues/jazz style it's incredible. Smith and Emerson are two of my all-time favorite musicians, and they both wore their influences on their sleeves very proudly.
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Evolver
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Posted: July 04 2014 at 16:59 |
I've listen to the first two CDs so far.
Disk 1 I believe is from a previous remix, but I can't be certain.
Disk 2 is misleading. Most of the tracks say "alternate version" whisch should differentiate them from the ones that say "different mix". But they don't sound like alternate takes. Just slightly different mixes - mostly the piano tracks come through more that the original.
There is a "different version" of Karn Evil 9 - 3rd Impression, that sounds like an early take on the piece, when Greg and Carl hadn't yet worked out their parts. That's the only track that rings true to the liner notes statement that disk 2 shows how the pieces evolved.
The Brain Salad Surgery is the original version, not the updated one on Works 2. This has been released on previous editions, but the mix here, especially that stomach dropping bass synth swoop, is the best I've heard it.
I'll be listening to the new mix soon.
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verslibre
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Posted: July 02 2014 at 23:16 |
Evolver wrote:
It was only $16.99 US at Newbury Comics.
Great chain in Massachusetts. I've known the owner since my record store days. Great guy.
Www.newbury.com if you want to order it from them. |
Ah, yes, familiar with the name. Have never had the pleasure of visiting their store. I hear it's really cool. Good price on that, too!
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Evolver
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Posted: July 02 2014 at 20:39 |
It was only $16.99 US at Newbury Comics.
Great chain in Massachusetts. I've known the owner since my record store days. Great guy.
Www.newbury.com if you want to order it from them.
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verslibre
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Posted: July 02 2014 at 20:27 |
Evolver wrote:
A new 40th anniversary edition of Brain Salad Surgery was released yerterday - 2 CDs and a DVD.
Disk 1: The original album remastered
Disk 2: The alternate Brain Salad Surgery: other mixes and takes from teh album, plus the Brain Salad Surgery and Apple Blossoms B-sides
DVD: 2014 Super Stereo Brain Salad Surgery remixed by Jakko Jakszyk - plus flac files of both mixes.
I haven't gotten all the way through it yet. |
Cool! How much was it? You got it from Amazon, I presume?
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Evolver
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Posted: July 02 2014 at 07:34 |
A new 40th anniversary edition of Brain Salad Surgery was released yerterday - 2 CDs and a DVD.
Disk 1: The original album remastered
Disk 2: The alternate Brain Salad Surgery: other mixes and takes from teh album, plus the Brain Salad Surgery and Apple Blossoms B-sides
DVD: 2014 Super Stereo Brain Salad Surgery remixed by Jakko Jakszyk - plus flac files of both mixes.
I haven't gotten all the way through it yet.
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richardh
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Posted: March 07 2013 at 02:54 |
Funny how people miss the point about ELP as a band. Sorry but that is a desperately dull impression of ELP. At least Triumvirate were fun.
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Harold13
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 23:00 |
HELL YES!!!
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 17:31 |
An ELP fan should like this one.
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:52 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
3 - Prog does has a tiny sliver of Jazz and R'n'B in its DNA but is for all intents and purposes unequivocally 'white' music that does not source its development from funk, soul, blues, motown, dance music or basic primal rock and roll. Without wishing to embroil us in undue controversy on an ELP appreciation thread, there is more than ample evidence to suggest that (exclusively white) music journalists in both the UK and USA have always had a covert racist agenda when it comes to bestowing their laurel wreaths on the heads of those they will subsequently decapitate before the month's out.
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But even if he did incorporate now-white elements into their music, critics would just say they were "appropriating them"; hence why acts like Led Zeppelin were trashed while others like Captain Beefheart got off the hook. Also, I'm skeptical about Lake's "Punk is not a form of music" statement. The Stooges, The New York Dolls, The Ramones, The Clash and even The Sex Pistols had some decent stuff. If Lake, on the other hand, was talking about the movement that spawned punk rock, then he hit the nail right on the head. There's more pretension in a Lester Bangs article than in the title track to Tarkus.
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SquonkHunter
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Posted: March 05 2013 at 18:51 |
When they were at their peak, none were better. When they "lost" that certain chemistry, they were awful. Even so, their primo stuff is the best of the genre. IMO, of course.
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