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Catcher10
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Posted: January 07 2014 at 21:08 | ||
Lucky you!! The hiatus was BRUTAL!!!! I all about gave up they would return to the studio, let alone see them live again. But these issues I suppose masked my feelings towards the sound of VT, it still does not bother me, I can listen to the CD. I remember when it came out.....I played it daily for probably a month straight.
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Metalmarsh89
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
Posted: January 07 2014 at 20:55 | ||
Personally, I would rank my favorites from modern times as...
1) Clockwork Angels 2) Snakes & Arrows 3) Vapor Trails (remixed or not) Clockwork Angels is quite awesome in my opinion. I also really like Snakes & Arrows, but Clockwork Angels eclipses it by just a bit. Vapor Trails definitely narrowed the gap with the remixed edition, but I still prefer Snakes & Arrows over it. Also, to be quite honest, I can't even listen to the original Vapor Trails anymore, not with the way the remixes turned out. |
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Queen By-Tor
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: January 07 2014 at 20:36 | ||
Ooooh, that is good news
I'm excited. I really enjoy all the songs from the album and it's the only one that to me sounds samey because of what I perceive as production issues. But I became a Rush fan around 2003 so I didn't have to suffer through the hiatus. |
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Catcher10
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Posted: January 07 2014 at 20:31 | ||
Ohh boy...I suspect VT will move to #2 for you then at minimum. The remix is fantastic, I am a vinyl guy and the remix vinyl is amazing! I hear sounds that I don't on the original CD. Especially Secret Touch, one of my favs, and Earthshine, of course. I never thought the original CD sounded like mud, now back then I really did not know much about the loudness wars/issue, it just sounded heavy to me, but it fit considering it was the "return" of Rush...so I loved it! |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: January 07 2014 at 20:19 | ||
For me it's
Snakes & Arrows Clockwork Angels Vapor Trails I love everything about S&A, it's very heavy and humble. CA to me sounds like Rush reaching into unfamiliar territory and though seeing them with an orchestra actually brought tears to my eyes live it just doesn't sound like the Rush I know. Might age well though! I loved the story and the first time I heard The Garden it brought me to tears. Errm... Rush makes me cry a lot, kay!? They really know how to demand an audience's attention and play with emotion in their music! That order might change if I heard Vapor Trails Remixed. I love the writing in VT but it sounds like mud |
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Crumple
Forum Groupie Joined: November 26 2013 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 91 |
Posted: January 07 2014 at 15:11 | ||
So judging from recent comments it would seem most would rank 2000s Rush as
1. Clockwork Angels 2. Vapor Trails 3. Snakes & Arrows Or would you flip 1 and 2? I've only heard Clockwork...which has taken me quite a bit of time to bond with (still trying). The first few spins I found it impenetrable and a bit leaden/wooden/relentlessly thick...almost...sludgy? People laugh at me for "trying" to like some music...haha...but I know myself...if it clicks right away I usually forget it a month later. If it takes some time...it rewards for a lifetime in some cases. ;) anyone else like that? |
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rdtprog
Special Collaborator Heavy, RPI, Symph, JR/F Canterbury Teams Joined: April 04 2009 Location: Mtl, QC Status: Offline Points: 5284 |
Posted: December 21 2013 at 15:31 | ||
Snakes and Arrows is a bit too long and also Clockwork Angels, Roll the Bones and even Counterparts with some filler songs. Since the existence of the CD, the band has put some songs that would have fit on B sides of our great 70's bands.
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Catcher10
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Posted: December 21 2013 at 15:24 | ||
Ok...I just heard it straight from the horses mouth .....I agree 100% the album is a bit too long, that is probably my only issue with S&A.
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Horizons
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Posted: December 21 2013 at 11:57 | ||
S&A is my favorite "modern" Rush album.
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Ambient Hurricanes
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2011 Location: internet Status: Offline Points: 2549 |
Posted: December 21 2013 at 11:45 | ||
S&A is a very good album that is a bit too long. Like some other of Rush's late-period albums (well, RtB especially), it could have benefited from the elimination of a few weaker tracks (Good News First, Bravest Face) but some of the songs on the album just kick ass. I love the multi-layered nature of the album; even though the band themselves thought they overdid it I personally felt like it really added to the appeal of the record, although I am glad they stripped it down for Clockwork Angels, also. |
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Metalmarsh89
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
Posted: December 21 2013 at 00:06 | ||
I tend to wonder why people dislike Snakes & Arrows. I agree it's a good album, though maybe not quite as good as Clockwork Angels, if only because it lacks that awesome strong concept. I would put 'Workin' Them Angels' as my favorite from that album too. |
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Catcher10
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Posted: December 20 2013 at 16:31 | ||
Well I do enjoy S&A quite a bit....Workin Them Angels is a pretty hard heavy tune that resonates well with me and Far Cry is a killer song even The Larger Bowl, I know most are not fond of that album but for me it works and plays well.
Very good musicianship, really not too overtly conceptual....just a good hard rocking album. But yes, going back a bit Counterparts is a beast of an album!
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7849 |
Posted: December 20 2013 at 12:29 | ||
Snotty here. Gotta agree with you. I also feel that Power Windows and Presto are 2 very under appreciated albums in general. I think those 2 albums alone are better than pretty much all the stuff they did in the 90's except for arguably Counterparts, and pretty much all their 21st century stuff except Clockwork Angels. Just my opinion. |
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Crumple
Forum Groupie Joined: November 26 2013 Location: New York Status: Offline Points: 91 |
Posted: December 19 2013 at 08:52 | ||
^hmmm most of those songs are from Presto and RTB which I've never listened to...so given my love for Virtuality I may be pleasantly surprised when I do!
I enjoy the lyrics, which some find corny...especially this part "Like a pair of vagabonds who wave between two passing trains Or the glimpse of a woman's smile through a window in the rain I can smell her perfume, I can taste her lips I can feel the voltage from her fingertips" A couple of very cool snapshots in there... and something kind of sexy also (rare for Rush) I do agree with you on Stick It Out though...that's one I never really enjoyed that much...and tend to skip. |
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verslibre
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Online Points: 17028 |
Posted: December 19 2013 at 00:19 | ||
It's one of those "stock" songs Rush threw onto some of their albums in the '90s, like "Red Tide" and "You Bet Your Life." It sounds like it was assembled and recorded very quickly. There are other songs from that era I like a lot, lot less than I did when I heard them initially, like "Anagram (For Mongo)," "The Pass," "Neurotica" (dreadful, that) and "Stick It Out" (the only song I skip over on Counterparts, which is otherwise a brilliant album, IMO). |
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Catcher10
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Posted: December 18 2013 at 12:20 | ||
I am a tad older than you snot nosed kids .....PW is one of my fav Rush albums. Even though I grew up with Hemis, AFTK, 2112....I still spin it often, I still have the original vinyl issue and I think it is one of the best sounding vinyl they have.
Grand Designs, Marathon, Mystic Rhythms.....freaking great stuff. And all still play well live
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progbethyname
Forum Senior Member Joined: July 30 2012 Location: HiFi Headmania Status: Offline Points: 7849 |
Posted: December 18 2013 at 09:15 | ||
I think I'm gonna listen to Power Windows tonight. This thread has got me motivated for some more 80's Rush. :)
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66256 |
Posted: December 18 2013 at 05:53 | ||
Clockwork Angels The Comic Book. http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/rush-to-launch-comic-book-series/
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Metalmarsh89
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 15 2013 Location: Oregon, USA Status: Offline Points: 2673 |
Posted: December 18 2013 at 00:41 | ||
Though personally, I do like Geddy's hairstyle from the 80's, that ponytail with the fluff on top. I thought it suited him quite well. |
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zumacraig
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 10 2011 Status: Offline Points: 1301 |
Posted: December 17 2013 at 14:27 | ||
what's ironic about that album is that it is a good rush album AND if you want to hear what music sounded like in the 80s, you put that album on. it has everything that was fun and awful in the 80s all rolled in one.
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