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rileydog22 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
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I thought primaries were decided by members of the party rather than the voting public. I could be totally wrong, though.
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moreitsythanyou ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: April 23 2006 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 11682 |
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Sadly that's true. I wish third parties had more coverage so that more people would know about them because most often, the best candidates are the ones running in the third parties who don't have to compromise their ideals to appeal to mainstream America.
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moreitsythanyou ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: April 23 2006 Location: NYC Status: Offline Points: 11682 |
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Nader (yay!) and Kuchinich (don't know how to spell that) seem most likely for me but I need to do more research on this. Guiliani is not bad as a liberal Republican and according to my dad, I had a button for his mayoral election in NYC
![]() Do they let you vote in the primaries if you turn eighteen between the primary election and the actual one?
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enteredwinter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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All Nader does is steal votes away from The Lesser of Two Evils, a.k.a. the Democratic candidate. I support a lot of what Nader believes in, but to quote from the Simpsons, in response to someone suggesting that they vote for a third-party candidate: "Go ahead, throw your vote away!" I wish I could get that guy to quit. |
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Thanks Atkingani. And we've been talking about the 2 parties. What about Nader? I don't know for sure, but I bet he'll throw his hat into the ring.
Just can't get that guy to quit
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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We are similar, you and I. ![]() |
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Atkingani ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: October 21 2005 Location: Terra Brasilis Status: Offline Points: 12288 |
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I see no problem having a thread for the American elections. We have a thread dedicated to the French elections and I remember that last year we talked about elections that happened in Brazil, Mexico, Peru, Italy, etc.
The most important issue is to keep the discussion civil which fortunately is the tone here up to now.
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Proletariat ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1882 |
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i cant vote yet
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who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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All good Febus. And I REALLY don't know why I vote. I always hate whatever candidates get the nod, I really hate the way politics/society works etc. etc. I am the stereotypical "all politicians suck, voting is useless anyway" kid. I think I follow politics almost like it's a sport....
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stonebeard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
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I'd want to move there too. Too bad the Sari Club bombing by Islamic terrorists diminished its beauty a bit. Edited by stonebeard - April 29 2007 at 20:47 |
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febus ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
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Hi jj apologies from me to have been a little bit harsh
![]() Just the idea of MCCAIN'' Bomb bomb bomb Iran'' getting president wants to make me move to Bali
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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We need to start a grassroots campaign for Kucinich or Gravel!
It starts here....
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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They all suck.
And the few running who should be considered will be completely ignored in favor of the media-anointed frontrunners.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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BroSpence ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 05 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2614 |
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I don't think any of the candidates are really that good.
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Because that's all I know. I've brought politics up alot, but have I ever said anything like the US the center of the world? I like talking about politics and would LOVE to talk about the French elections. However, I am not an expert on international politics, I can't go into the depth I can about US elections, with the French elections.
OK, I'll stop before I say something and get myself thrown off here.
But really, I can't discuss politics in countries I don't know that well. So sorry for my ignorance. Edited by JJLehto - April 29 2007 at 18:45 |
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Mikerinos ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Planet Gong Status: Offline Points: 8890 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=36661 There is a thread on the French elections. Most Americans on PA are very open to other cultures and don't act like the US is superior at all. I live in America, but I dream of moving to Europe when I graduate College. Might not be likely, but I still like to think about it. Anyway, it does make sense that the US elections get brought up over, say the Croatia elections. Since the US is the most powerful country in the world, the results of the 2008 election are much more important on a worldwide basis than the Croatian ones, whether you like it or not. |
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febus ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: January 23 2007 Location: Orlando-Usa Status: Offline Points: 4312 |
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Why do we have to talk about US elections here on PA as if the USa were the center of the world.
![]() PA is an international forum with people from Indonesia to Croatia who don't give a damn about US elections with just reason
If you want to talk election, there is the FREnch ones next week!
At least respect the rest of the world
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JJLehto ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Tallahassee, FL Status: Offline Points: 34550 |
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Yup, it is funny in Political Science learning about the Liberal Republicans, and Conservative Democrats. Prescott Bush, grandaddy of Wubya, was a leader of the Moderate Reps. and socially was one of the most liberal senators. Go figure.
As you put it, the 2 parties have just become too polarized.
2006 was proof, as Republicans are becoming extinct in New England, and Democrats in the South. Regardless of their political positions.
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rileydog22 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 24 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 8844 |
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It's really unfortunate, yet another victim of the utterly stupid two-party system. I'm sorry, you have views that don't fit either of the two one-size-fits-all catagories that EVERYBODY'S views must fit, therefore you are unelectable. Makes me f*cking sick. Edited by rileydog22 - April 29 2007 at 17:40 |
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enteredwinter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 05 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 501 |
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Not sure who I'd vote for yet, but as far as who's going to win, which is unfortunately all that matters in the end, I'm pretty sure Rudy Giuliani is going to be the next president.
The country may have swung to the left following the backlash against Bush due to Iraq, but I honestly can't see either Hillary or Obama being elected president, and they seem to be the only Democrats that even have a chance. Sorry, I just don't see Kucinich having a chance, even though I like the guy in general. Hillary is a woman who is viewed unfavorably by many people. Obama is a black man who looks young and is relatively inexperienced. I'm not saying that I personally have a problem with either a woman and/or black president; personally I'd embrace the idea of having some diversity in our leaders instead of the typical middle-aged/old white men running the show all the time. I just think that many Americans don't have, let's say, an open mind about this stuff. As far as the Republicans, I could easily see Giuliani elected, or maybe McCain, but in any case, we'll almost certainly have another Republican in office. The one good thing: no one can ever be as bad as Bush. I hope. |
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