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Points: 28057 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:10
Originally posted by TRoTZ TRoTZ wrote:

It's albuns like this that are killing prog.
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Should progressive don't be really progressive, as the word says ?
 
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I don't understand how any open-minded fan of Progressive Rock can give Paradox Hotel a 1 star.  It's fairly accessible prog music with no blatant plagiarism.  I can't even think of one prog album I'd give that to (except maybe Ummagumma, but the Live album makes up for the horrible studio album).  And I doubt you listened to it 10 times; if someone thinks an album is THAT BAD, they probably won't listen to it more than 3 times, if that.
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I have to admit I agree entirely with The Wizard review. Most recent Flower Kings album shows again, unsurprisingly, a completely unoriginal sound. Beyond that, it lacks all the feeling that usually characterized classics. Though untertaining, it is completely trivial. It's albuns like this that are killing prog. Should progressive don't be really progressive, as the word says ?
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:04
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I believe my honesty is being questioned. Not only do you think that I only listened to the album once, but the false notion that I'm 13 years old is now being accepted. [IMG]height=17 alt=Angry src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
I simply trust The Miracle's opinion over yours; my perception of your words has been objectively affected by your review.
My age is not a matter of opinion. And my rating/review is not a matter of fact.
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Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I believe my honesty is being questioned. Not only do you think that I only listened to the album once, but the false notion that I'm 13 years old is now being accepted. [IMG]height=17 alt=Angry src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley7.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    
I simply trust The Miracle's opinion over yours; my perception of your words has been objectively affected by your review.
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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:02
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:01
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?



Because there are obviously many albums that are worse than Paradox Hotel. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, "inconsistent" might be better.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you ... Embarrassed
That's just your opinion that there are many album worse than Paradox Hotel. Big smile


I guess Woody Allen was right when he said that "Objectivity is subjective".LOL
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:01
I believe my honesty is being questioned. Not only do you think that I only listened to the album once, but the false notion that I'm 13 years old is now being accepted. Angry
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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I just saw the 1 star review of Paradox Hotel- I don't get it- its an amazing CD


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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 18:00
I just saw the 1 star review of Paradox Hotel- I don't get it- its an amazing CD



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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:58
I'm not 13, I'm 17.
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Oh, only 13? My bad.

Come back to the album in a few years... it might just be a sleeper for you.
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:56
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?



Because there are obviously many albums that are worse than Paradox Hotel. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, "inconsistent" might be better.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you ... Embarrassed
That's just your opinion that there are many album worse than Paradox Hotel. Big smile
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Points: 28427 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:56
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.


I don't know if I believe you. There is no way this album warrants one star. You sir, are objectively wrong.


Cut the kid some slack, he's only 13!WinkHug
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:55
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.


I don't know if I believe you. There is no way this album warrants one star. You sir, are objectively wrong.
Why? Because my review goes against popular opinion? Am I not allowed to express an opinion on an album on this site, even if I can back it up?
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Points: 21206 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:54
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

How is my rating 'objectively wrong'?



Because there are obviously many albums that are worse than Paradox Hotel. Maybe "wrong" is the wrong word, "inconsistent" might be better.

Sorry, I didn't mean to offend you ... Embarrassed
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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:54
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.


I don't know if I believe you. There is no way this album warrants one star. You sir, are objectively wrong.
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Points: 7341 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:52
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.
      That was completely uncalled for. The only one-star review you've ever written, and you've not written any two-stars, either. Your review is trolling, and you should be suitably reprimanded.

How is it trolling? I wrote 5 paragraphs to back up my rating.

    
5 baseless paragraphs. Just how many times did you listen to this album? Your review doesn't show any knowledge of the music, it sounds like a biased review based on a single listen, with an opinion formed before you started.
I've listened to the album about 10 times, all the way the through from beggining to end. I have plenty of knowledge on the music. I hadn't formed an opinion before I started, AS I EXPLICITLY STATED IN MY REVIEW.
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Points: 3830 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 24 2006 at 17:49
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Read my review of Paradox Hotel and tell me what you all think.
      That was completely uncalled for. The only one-star review you've ever written, and you've not written any two-stars, either. Your review is trolling, and you should be suitably reprimanded.

How is it trolling? I wrote 5 paragraphs to back up my rating.

    
5 baseless paragraphs. Just how many times did you listen to this album? Your review doesn't show any knowledge of the music, it sounds like a biased review based on a single listen, with an opinion formed before you started.
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