Atavachron wrote:

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I the face of ignorance, a****le-ishness is sometimes the best cure.

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Freudian slip? Wink

Edited by omphaloskepsis - October 19 2023 at 15:09

Atavachron wrote:

^ Y e p--- and for you 'news deniers', you are absolutely hilarious! You think people who watch "the news" actually believe it's all absolutely true ?! HAAA HA Ha ha !! That is hilarious !

YOU, the fake news hounds, have become the liars, the mis-leaders. The fools. If I were a serious hard-working young journalist or reporter and one of you jackasses decided to call me a fraud, I'd punch you in the face and go to jail for with pleasure. But you will continue your bitter, bizarre, paranoid campaign... as if anyone cares about your agenda.

It's sad.

Who are you talking to/about? I don’t know anyone to whom this description applies. The “bitter, bizarre, paranoid campaign” part strikes me as projection though.

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^ Y e p--- and for you 'news deniers', you are absolutely hilarious! You think people who watch "the news" actually believe it's all absolutely true ?! HAAA HA Ha ha !! That is hilarious !

YOU, the fake news hounds, have become the liars, the mis-leaders. The fools. If I were a serious hard-working young journalist or reporter and one of you jackasses decided to call me a fraud, I'd punch you in the face and go to jail for with pleasure. But you will continue your bitter, bizarre, paranoid campaign... as if anyone cares about your agenda.

It's sad.

"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy

CosmicVibration wrote:

For propaganda to be truly successful, especially long term, you also need censorship. Propaganda and censorship are 2 sides of the same coin. With a high mixture of fear and desperation you can get people to do anything.

Excellent point. Wink

Prog-jester wrote:

I love when user says this:

omphaloskepsis wrote:

I don't believe anything the media reports unless they can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt

and then proceeds to post a 100% propaganda

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It is almost impossible to KNOW you're right about any of the big narratives of our time

unless you're trusting Scott Ritter of course

Please explain how what I said was propaganda, Progjester.

1. I claimed that most media is propaganda. How was my claim propaganda? And, who benefits from my statement?

2. I claimed, "Lies by omission are lies". How is that propaganda?

An example of a lie by omission- If I claim that the police mercilessly shot my brother dead, but I neglected to report that my brother had first fired shots at the police.

3. I claimed that "truth out of context" is a lie How is that propaganda? Here is a lie by "truth out of context" using statistics.

Suppose an anti-gun group reports that a town's murder rate increased by 300% over a ten-year period. But they neglect to tell you that only one person was murdered in the first ten years. And that three were murdered in the next ten years. In addition, they neglect to tell you that the town's population doubled in the intervening ten-year period.

Here's an article describing the art of lying by telling the truth.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20171114-the-disturbing-art-of-lying-by-telling-the-truth

4. I admitted that I don't believe the news unless it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. How is that propaganda? I merely admitted my personal way of viewing the news.

5. I claimed as time goes by, more people distrust the media. Do you think my statement is untrue? If it's a lie then you must believe that as time goes by...more people trust the media. The second law of thermodynamics suggests that everything is changing. Therefore the percentage of people believing the media must fluctuate. It can't stay the same, since everything changes all the time. Therefore, either more or less people believe the media as time goes by.

6. I claimed that an article claimed that 50% of Americans think the media deliberately misleads them. Then I said I did not trust the article, because it was media too. How was my statement a lie or propaganda? Wink

I believe all governments use media propaganda. Russia, China, America, EU...

Progjester, if you believe the governments that you DON'T LIKE exclusively use propaganda then you were fooled by government propaganda from a government you like.

Edited by omphaloskepsis - October 19 2023 at 12:37

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Well, some of us can even admit mistakes. Let’s leave it at that, goodbye. Will not respond to your trolling ever again.

“The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain other sets of people are human.”
(Aldous Huxley)

it's just so funny to see you two being so holier-than-thou in this thread, I just can't

I love when user says this:

omphaloskepsis wrote:

I don't believe anything the media reports unless they can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt

and then proceeds to post a 100% propaganda

MikeEnRegalia wrote:

It is almost impossible to KNOW you're right about any of the big narratives of our time

unless you're trusting Scott Ritter of course

^ Sometimes understanding a problem does not require higher education at all, but - in addition to common sense and logic 101 - an absence of bias. Unfortunately our human societal structures inevitably lead to problems like group think and tribal/mob mentalities. Something the media apparatus knows how to exploit. The result is a vicious cycle where false beliefs and bogus narratives are amplified, while solitary voices pointing out the problem are ridiculed and ostracised and seen as troublemakers, destroying the comfort of opinion with their insistence on thought.,

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