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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:



Well, glad you enjoy it. I appreciate it but thought others might comment on it being too noise-y. The piano break, as Nickie refers to, I find very pretty and like that contrast
  Yes, that is why it caught my ear.  Those banana-split decision, not very apeeling.
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Continuing where I left off on page one:

Lewian: I like both of those choices about equally, but might favour Sylvia Juncosa - One in Three for the poll.

Kees: Of the Anouks, I prefer Anouk - It's a New Day, but for me the other fits the brief better. Having now listened to the Izia, that is my clear favourite of yours.

George: Gotta go with the Grinch here. ;) Of your choices I favour Dead Sara - Weatherman.

Malcom: Joanne Shaw Taylor certainly does rock. Now that I have heard your three choices, I think I favour Imelda May. A different sort of performance that I had conceives of when I saw this poll and an interesting choice. Good to see the variety in choices.

Lorenzo: I appreciate each of yours in its own way, but my favourites are Carmen Consoli - Besame Giuda and Ustmamo: Tannomai.

Nickie: I like all three, knew The Pretenders one. I think I favour Heather Nova's "Walk This World.

Mila: Courtney Barnett's History Eraser was more in my wheelhouse, but I appreciated the other. Of course no one here should be unwise enough to be influenced by my impressions. ;)

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Logan

I hoped that opening the Midori's video would start a Japanese Manga, and instead...


It's not quite as titillating as the album cover would suggest, and potentially much more shocking. It really is a nicer album than that abrasive song suggests, but I felt that most appropriate for this topic. By the way, I like to keep abreast of a variety of Japanese media.

I like a lot this song, strong contender to the podium.


Well, glad you enjoy it. I appreciate it but thought others might comment on it being too noise-y. The piano break, as Nickie refers to, I find very pretty and like that contrast

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

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Greg: Melt-Banana “Shield for Your Eyes, a Beast in the Well on Your Hand” Wrangling guitar noise dominates this one, almost atonally, very pointedly. Then kinda screechy female voices add their own pointedness, at a headlong pace all through, punkish and in your face. Midori “ミドリ — かなしい日々” Cacophony from the start and another kinda yelling vocal. I like the piano breaks, this is very in-your-face madwoman music. 1/2 in break with sweet voiced portion instead of a guitar solo. Abrupt end. Eskaton “Dagon” Kind of psych organ sounds, waves and an operatic voice, that becomes a bit discordant at times. Gets to becoming kind of a bad trip 2/3rds in, in a good way. As you likely know I do like this kind of stuff, enjoy the dynamics of a build. This would be my fave of yours here.


I love Eskaton, but would feel like I'd be cheating a bit by including that one. I wouldn't, but as it is in PA and is a well-known band in Zeuhl circles. I love "Dagon".

I actually am still favouring the Melt-Banana, even if I now feel a little banana-split due to comments as I was so confident in that choice when I posted it. It fit the brief for me of being very energetic rock and I was going to avoid mentioning any in PA (Koenji Hyakkei from Japan, and is Zeuhl, being one that came to mind). My mind did go to the more frenetic/ hectic punk-rock place when I read the OP. I thought about doing one from the Plasmatics too with Wendy O.

Here is a live performance of Melt-Banana with the same song not opening for Camel (poor sound quality, but then perhaps with the "noise" it would be hard to tell anyway).



I have seen Melt-Banana's vocals compared to Mickey Mouse. A high-energy Japanese rockin' and rappin' punk Mickey Mouse female sounds like something special to me. :)

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Originally posted by jamesbaldwin jamesbaldwin wrote:

@Nickie

I like Heater Nova's song.
Good rock ballad with a catchy chorus. Much of the beauty comes from the woman's singing, which takes inflections, typical accents, I suppose geographically determined.

I also like the Pretenders song, more robotic, angular, the sound is harsh and dry - but I like it less.

Instead I don't like the second option very much.

Thank you, I always enjoy getting feedback and honesty, too.  Smile  Agreed, Heather is more of a "vocalist," although what Chrissie Hynde does with most of her material is subtly difficult to actually pull off (not in this piece, however).  Debra Iyall comes direct from the SF punk scene.  
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@Nickie

I like Heater Nova's song.
Good rock ballad with a catchy chorus. Much of the beauty comes from the woman's singing, which takes inflections, typical accents, I suppose geographically determined.

I also like the Pretenders song, more robotic, angular, the sound is harsh and dry - but I like it less.

Instead I don't like the second option very much.
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First listens up to here, with additions for tigerfeet:

tigerfeet:  Ellips “Maailma on Rikki”  I like the way they look on stage, After a vocal into, heavy guitar, bass, flute and drums.  Very energetic performance, definitely hear some Icelandic vibe to the music, too.  I enjoy a lot of the bands who draw from their ancestry in the north, this is heavier than most I listen to, which tends to the dark folk side, but this is quite enjoyable in this group, for me.  Blending some psych in too, with some extended jamming and solos.  Imelda May “Johnny Got A Boom Boom”  Cool instrumentation, kind of a jazz/rockabilly quintet with a large tar-lke drum and other percussion, stand up bass, electric guitar and trap set.  Enjoyable for the novelty of it, but I do like your second selection the best here.   

Lorenzo:  Cristina Donà “Ho Sempre Me”  This one has a bit more of a slow build, I anticipate heaviness and am rewarded.  This has some nice strings, too.  I like the distorted guitars.  It’s a bit more sophisticated than most of these rockers have been.  Carmen Consoli “Besame Giuda”  Discordant guitar whangling and a very passionate, emotive vocal, there is a punkish sensibility to this to my ear, even the vocalist isn’t angry sounding.  And also, alt/rock.  Ustmamo “Tannomai”  More whangling guitars and this time, with a more scolding sort of vocal, a bit sing-song style.  Chorus of singers comes in toward the end.  Your first selection was most pleasing for me, stylistically.

Mila:  Tash Sultana “Murder To The Mind” This one is very sensual and sultry, yet also cool, gets into heavier territory for dynamics.  Very cool brass section as well.  Lead guitar solo 3/4ths in is smoking!   Courtney Barnett “History Eraser  This is a sing-songy vocal with washy instrumentation, alt/rocky and with wry lyrics.  I do like both, but prefer the musicality of Tash. 


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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

If you have a sec, listen to her guitar solo. It starts at 3:30. She is a one-woman-act/band.
Like I said, I'm not rejecting anything. 

 Ok thanks! Let's see, maybe someone comments on them.



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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

If you have a sec, listen to her guitar solo. It starts at 3:30. She is a one-woman-act/band.

Like I said, I'm not rejecting anything. 
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If you have a sec, listen to her guitar solo. It starts at 3:30. She is a one-woman-act/band, a real powerhouse! Clap


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:

Which means that you are accepting the first one or not? It get's more and more energetic.

I'm not rejecting anything
In the end you know you (me and everyone else) have to choose one final nomination. 
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Which means that you are accepting the first one or not? It get's more and more energetic.


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Originally posted by Mila-13 Mila-13 wrote:


Hi everybody! I'm a bit late as usual but I'm not going to miss this one. Great topic, Cristi!

I'm going with 2 Ozzy ladies. They are among my favourite current artists in this genre. They are both energetic, each in her own way. I hope not everyone knows them. - Do they meet your criteria, Cristi?

Tash Sultana: Murder To The Mind (2017)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQN1piSqAmk

Courtney Barnett: History Eraser (2013)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6_G5PlEXdk


I have no idea what's wrong, sometimes I manage to post those links, sometimes I don't . . Confused


first song is groovey and mellow
second one is a good rocking one. 
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Hi everybody! I'm a bit late as usual but I'm not going to miss this one. Great topic, Cristi!

I'm going with 2 Ozzy ladies. They are among my favourite current artists in this genre. They are both energetic, each in her own way. I hope not everyone knows them. - Do they meet your criteria, Cristi?

Tash Sultana: Murder To The Mind (2017)



Courtney Barnett: History Eraser (2013)





I have no idea what's wrong, sometimes I manage to post those links, sometimes I don't . .

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I went to the end of Page One, but will save Lorenzo's as two of them are on page 2 (for me) The same happens for tigerfeet, but he chose to do it that way and I need to cleanse my ear palate for a bit before continuing.  Here are my first thoughts, with an addition from JD.  

JD:  Nina Hagen “Universal Radio”  There is a bit of a sense of the new burlesque about her to me (although this is not new).  I remember this one well, it had lots of airplay on KROQ radio in the 80’s.  Great campy, arty/punk/ new wave stuff.  She has a great sense of humour about herself and is certainly energetic and not at all delicate.  😊 

Kees:  Anouk “Nobody’s Wife”  Begins with acoustic guitar, then full band kicks in.  Don’t mess with an angry woman.  😊  Kind of Etheridge-y, there were a lot of great female artists in that era, with plenty of angst.  Driving lead 2/3rd s in.  Seems to be the time for driving leads in this genre.  I like her.  😊  Anouk “It’s a New Day”  This is a ballad with strings and really showcases her fine voice, in more of a poppy diva mode, a paean to women’s advancement in the world.  A deep electric guitar lead, sets it apart from so many of the higher, wailing leads preferred in this genre.  Izia “So Much Trouble”  (2nd version, from page 2)  As stated, heavy bass, the vocal is delivered in a staccato manner, and it’s quick-paced.  Angular sounding and definitely rocky, in almost a punky kinda way at times, but more mature playing than punk, as far as the band.  Either of the first two work the best for me, but this is the hardest rocking one. 

George: Dead Sara “Weatherman”  Straight-forward hard rock here, with a touch of alt-rock/grunge, catchy guitar hooks and a raspy-voiced lead vocal.  Bit of a rap 2/3rds in (a trend here), then back to the driving song.    Thunderpussy “Powerhouse”  This band is sorta 70’s hard rock sounding to me, thre’s a blues feeling to it.  The Pretty Reckless (feat. Tom Morello) “And So It Went”  Heavy, driving guitars and a model-ish vocalist, a bit of rasp to her voice, a bit of a break, ooh, ½ way in! where she softens it up for a few before the yep, 2/3rds in guitar lead.  Cute touch to add in the video of her before she got away from her likely backstage-mommy, lol.  I like Dead Sara and crew the best, here. 

tigerfeet:  Joanne Shaw Taylor “Bad Love”  Rockin’ it up, this lady has definitely a bluesy feel to her. I like her vocal delivery a lot here.  Oooh, lead is 1/2way in!  Shakin’ it up!  And another one 2/3rds in.  A for extra effort there. 

Greg:  Melt-Banana “Shield for Your Eyes, a Beast in the Well on Your Hand”  Wrangling guitar noise dominates this one, almost atonally, very pointedly.  Then kinda screechy female voices add their own pointedness, at a headlong pace all through, punkish and in your face.  Midori “ミドリかなしい日々”  Cacophony from the start and another kinda yelling vocal.  I like the piano breaks, this is very in-your-face madwoman music.  1/2 in break with sweet voiced portion instead of a guitar solo. Abrupt end.  Eskaton “Dagon”  Kind of psych organ sounds, waves and an operatic voice, that becomes a bit discordant at times.  Gets to becoming kind of a bad trip 2/3rds in, in a good way.  As you likely know I do like this kind of stuff, enjoy the dynamics of a build.  This would be my fave of yours here.




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It's not available to me, so probably it, lol!  LOL  Thank you for your due diligence!
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That's it. I made a mistake with the link, apparently; it should work now...

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That one gets an error message on my laptop, but it may work for others in other places.  It starts out with neon lights and then the Eiffel Tower
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^ This one is maybe the same clip?


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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


Regarding Anouk's Nobody's Wife, that is probably the original album version (like this one, if this one is visible...?). The clip starts with a couple of spoken words: "tell me about her" and has a laugh mixed in at some point, but the music is exactly the same, so that's all OK.

Regarding Izia: the second one I posted is exactly the same clip, just another source - glad it works.

Your alternative Heather Nova vid works for me, so I suppose it'll work for Cristi and other Europeans...
  Thank you, Kees.  That one, I can "see/hear" as well.

Glad about that, I like the video that was done, sorry there doesn't seem to be an alternate to the Vevo one, but you can get the idea.  It's the same music, after all.  Smile


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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:


Anouk - Nobody's Wife:

Video Removed For Space

This one I can't "see."  The first one that I can, has 27+K views, but it is the album cut at 3:25.  Will give that one a listen, let me know if it's totally wrong, or if someone else can get a US-allowed one, if this isn't it.  

Like JD, I can't "see," the first Azia video, either, so am going with your second version that you added on Page 2.


Regarding Anouk's Nobody's Wife, that is probably the original album version (like this one, if this one is visible...?). The clip starts with a couple of spoken words: "tell me about her" and has a laugh mixed in at some point, but the music is exactly the same, so that's all OK.

Regarding Izia: the second one I posted is exactly the same clip, just another source - glad it works.

Your alternative Heather Nova vid works for me, so I suppose it'll work for Cristi and other Europeans...

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