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Poll Question: Choose three songs out of these...
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@Lorenzo. I haven't thought about the "Dear Prudence" connection before. I'd say, the chorus uses the same melody notes, but in a different way, and that aside I don't think the two songs have much in common. It is most certainly not on purpose, but on the other hand they are clearly influenced by the Beatles. After all "Kom lad os brokke os" (one of my two contributions to the protest song poll) briefly cited "Lady Madonna" towards the end, but that was obviously on purpose.
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A wonderful musician who has never stopped making great music...from Still (2015),
I never tire of listening to his guitar .
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@Lewian

Friedman etc.
In this music there is Christian at the nth power: instrumental piece, sounds bordering on noises and cacophony, but in this case with a sober arrangement, it is basically a tribal cybernetic piece, similar to the King Crimson of the second period, it could have a dealing also with the Tibetan Ki Gong. Contender



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- Pa Kanten etc: synthetic song that evokes the synth pop, which has a singing that recalls the French, all in all it's a pop song verse-chorus but arranged in a very experimental way and with curious sounds.

- En mand etc. Rock ballad with rough sounds, but with a very melodic base, with a hard rock chorus, I would say very eclectic, it reminded me of the Blur of the best times, very marked singing that stands out the original language. It is the one I prefer, candidate for the podium

- Bjornen etc soft and melodic song that could recall certain Beatles refrains, nice, but of the three it is the one that attracts me less. When the melody gets on the major tonality, did you also notice that it sounds like Dear Prudence? Or is it just my impression?


@Nickie

- Kaleidoscope I know I've already voted them in an old poll, their sixties psychedelic pop raga is prodigious ... this song is a grungy folk arranged with a lot of good taste, and sung beautifully, I would say contender

- Tom Rapp if I'm not mistaken you have nominated him recently, here he presents himself as a sweet and pastoral singer-songwriter, fragile, vulnerable, in the style of Nick Drake but his voice is much more expressive. This is also a contender for the podium

- To Venus is an instrumental composition that echoes chamber music, therefore a symphonic poem, the musical score is all in all sober, here we go more on the evocative rather than the narrative.
The first two songs convince me more.



Edited by jamesbaldwin - April 20 2021 at 16:24
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And now for the first songs on page 2.

mathman0806 (part 3)
Pearl Jam "Dance of the Clairvoyants" (2020) starts with bass and drums. Then enters vocals and some interesting guitar. It's almost funky, and towards the end there are some choirs that lead my thoughts to "The Great Curve" from Remain in Light. All in all very cold and dark sounding.

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Golden Earring "Flowers in the Mud": I admit I haven't really been listening to Golden Earring, except I know "Radar Love". This one is as pretty classic rock song, the composition is perhaps a bit R.E.M.-like at times. Fine number. Slightly inappropriate album cover. Nits - "The Electric Pond" is in the more experimental area with interesting sound elements and some quite impressionistic chord changes. I prefer this to Golden Earring, even if it very much to the dark side. I think I have heard of the band before, but I didn't know any of their music. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark - "Ghost Star" begins with dark synths and some exotic bird sounds. More synths enter the sound, this time some rather agressive ones. I can visualize the musicians/producers turning the knobs in the studio. I expected the track to be instrumental, but a singing voice comes in at some point and sings what is essentially a ballad. Then come the "drums". The singer sounds a bit too much like Bono for my taste, but apart from that I really like what I hear. My favourite among those three by far.

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Blue Öyster Cult. What is it with hard rock and metal bands and the umlaut? (Ü, Ö) The song is a bit bombastic, and I can't really figure out if the song is satirical or not (an alchymist with sunglasses, a graveyard, a church etc.), but I guess it is meant to be tongue-in-cheek at least. There are some hints at 80's heavy metal too. Only having heard "Don't Fear the Reaper" (it is them, right?), the song was not exactly what I expected. I quite enjoy it for what it is.
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Mini reviews:

@Cristi
- UFO is a nice hard rock song worthy of youth 

- Simple Minds try to go back to the sound of the origins but in my opinion they exaggerate in the special effects. 

- Placebo: I know this band well, and I like various albums, I really like Molko's voice; the song is nice, but it doesn't convince me at all. 

- Depeche mode: I love the Depeche Mode of maturity, not the first ones, here the sound is very synthetic, like in the first albums, a bit too much for my taste, but the vocal intertwining and the composition are very good. 
I think that's the one I like more.

@Prophesy disaster

My friend, I got the face, you got the words... Peter Hammill is our idol.

I was undecided if nominate or not nominate songs written by him and now I see you've nominated two wonderful songs by  VdG...

The first song, which reminds me of Gentle Giant's math rock is very beautiful, but it doesn't drive me crazy. However, we see that she is inspired. It is very prog. Candidate for the podium

Manuelle instead comes from the second disc of Present, it is a masterpiece like the whole second disc, which is made up of free jazz improvisations, and as such it is music that is the opposite of prog (because prog is composition, program, while jazz improvisation or blues jam sessions are anything but composition, they are variations on the theme). Here is Jackson's sax and I confess that I have not been able to follow VdGs in the spirit of the good old days since Jackson is gone. This song, if you nominate it, has a guaranteed place on my podium.


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Comsat Angels
Synthetic music at the right point, sensible choirs, rock is heard thanks to the drums and guitars, interesting the bass and the voice: this is the typical rock ballad that has nothing particularly special but it is musically inspired and arranged very well, and therefore has its effect. Contender.




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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Also Cristi, my nomination is: Ajda Pekkan - Ben Yanmisim. (It is actually Ben Yanmışım, but some of the Tuskish letters cause problems on here.)

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Also Cristi, my nomination is: Ajda Pekkan - Ben Yanmisim. (It is actually Ben Yanmışım, but some of the Turkish letters cause problems on here.)

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Firstly, sorry for just nominating and voting in this wondrous poll series for a long time. I hope I'll have the motivation to be able to canalize my vibrant vibes here again, soon.

Originally posted by The Anders The Anders wrote:

Shadowyzard The other clip I really enjoyed, though not necessarily for the right reasons. Let's just say his vocal performance is different... At times his vocal phrasings remind me of David Byrne, but I don't know if it's on purpose.


Let's say that he has virtually no experience in singing, and he is also probably infinitely talentless. LOL I see no "purpose" or anything here, but outstandingly hilarious incompetence. 

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Thanks to TCat and Nickie for your comments.

The singer and songwriter of Tv-2, Steffen Brandt, later recorded a solo album with his own translations - or rather re-tellling - of Dylan songs, so he has obviously been a big influence.


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The rest of Page One, with the Lewian additions:

Lewian:  Friedman & Liebezeit “182-11”  Already, here is something I would think of you, immediately, if I heard it and didn’t know who’d posted it.  Love that it’s live and we can watch them with their percussive beats and plinky plonky keys and wriggly sounds as they begin the piece.  Pretty hypnotic here, at the beginning, I already like the groove they are in.  Some wwwwhhhhhaaaaas transpire along as there are more layers added and some long wwwwwhhhhhiiiiiings and wibblies.  This music, as usual, is very fun to try and figure out how to describe the sounds.  Some almost steel drum sounds come along about halfway in with some more wibblies and spiraly sounds.  More steel drums come plinking in and some big whirs as the cymbals are played and one last bang on the drum concludes the piece.    

The Anders:  Tv-2 “På kanten af småt brændbart “Here there is a bit of a bouncy beat and a cheery kind of vocal.  The translation, however, is a bit more dark in feel, though not so dark as disposing of a body in the container….this is just about letting go of items that perhaps should be let go of, and of reflection on the passage of time and how people end up in different walks of life, apart, differently than they would have thought at one time in their shared past.   This has kind of a pop feel in tone and music to me, but a bit deeper lyrics than more modern pop.  Tv-2, some more, with “En mand og hans hund”  This one begins with some nicely played acoustic guitar.  The lyrics are sung a bit rapidly with violin pizzicato sounds added to the acoustic guitar.  Every once in a while, his vocals sound almost Dylan-esque to me.  An observation of an ordinary life from another who really isn’t part of that life, outside of the often meeting during the dog’s walks.  Were they closer?  Maybe is implied, but not confirmed, unless the narrator is the ice cream, figuratively. And a third selection from Tv-2 “Bjørnen sover” This one similarly has a Dylan-esque feel to the vocal, along with spare arrangement.  It is a much more reflective piece than the previous one, with a look at the impermanence of us all.  And also how much of nothing is truly done that matters in a life.  There is almost an echo of “Dear Prudence,” in the  chorus melody, here.

George:  Cheap trick “The Summer Looks Good On You”  I know Cheap Trick well!  One of our bus company managers was also Rick Nielsen’s guitar tech, they were all friends in high school.  He came to work for us in the early 90’s when the band wasn’t touring so much anymore and we had a flexible deal with him, so he could take the short hiatuses he needed to go on the road with them.  That all being said, they are great guys, and pretty much a hit-making powerhouse of their sort of rock.  So, can’t vote for it, but noting that this song is very much keeping their sound intact.  Fun music for good times.  Robert Plant “Carry Fire”  Oh, here you’ve really grabbed my ears with the Middle Eastern flavour, zils and perhaps an electric oud?  His voice is really sublime here with the lyrics done in an archetypal Sufic poetic verses of love.  Violin is also enthralling.  This one’s got my vote, lol. 

Mike:  Eric Clapton “River of Tears”  Not heard this one before, so interested to see how “Clapton-y,” it sounds.  A slow bluesy bass with light percussion and Slow Hand’s tasteful accompaniment on his electric guitar, along with very soft organ or other keyboard chords, in the background of the production.  Solemn vocals, well suited to the song.  This was apparently more dealing with grief music, no doubt cathartic for him.  Big Audio Dynamite “Rush”  Definitely a change of pace.  This one is, as one would suspect, punkish in feel.  Punk always makes me think of early garage bands like early Love and The Seeds.  This is a direct descendent of those bands (and, incidentally, a bit of the early Who, so, yep, of course I got the Baba O’Riley thing).  It is funny, when he does the aside about halfway in and next, we get into percussion, with sax and horns and some wingle-y keys and guitars and back into punk-y vocals, kinda early Stones-ish.  Billy Joel “Light as the Breeze”  No doubt about it, Billy’s got a great voice and plays the heck out of a piano.  I do know this song, being a Leonard Cohen fan, but what a great and surprising cover of it (which I didn’t know).  The arrangement is sort of Ray Charles-ish with the backing chorus and the horns.  My favourite of yours, here. 


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Yello, like Yaz, were a great 80's band.
I used 'Oh Yeah' for my wedding when I did the garter thing, mouthing the words "Oh Yeah" as I danced around like a stealthy shadow and moved Mrs. JD's dress just a little higher each time to get to the garter. It was a blast and very well received.


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Here are a couple from one of my favorite bands from their latest album (2017) "Toy".  These two selections show that Yello is still around and very much alive, plus they show a good example of their varied styles.

1. Yello - Limbo  ( I hope the video doesn't distract too much from the music)



2. Yello - Kiss the Cloud

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Starting at (where else?) page one:

Cristi

UFO “Devils in the Detail” – I’m a big fan of UFO’s “Obsession” album and also “No Heavy Petting”, but lost interest in them somewhere in the latter 80’s.  This song is okay, but a bit too predictable and repetitive for me to stay interested.

Simple Minds – “The Signal and the Noise” – This one is pretty good, but still quite typical of the band’s more popular sound.  I really like their really early material before they became big.

Placebo – “Loud Like Love” – I haven’t really heard much of this band, but what I have heard, I like.  Same with this track.  Maybe I should be listening to more of their music.

Depeche Mode – “Peace” – I have a love/hate relationship with this band.  This is one of their tracks that I love from an album that is very good.  Unfortunately, I’m too familiar with this track so I can’t vote for it.

A-ha – “Living at the End of the World” – This one would be my favorite out of the ones you posted.  I keep getting surprised by the newer A-ha tracks that you have posted, and this one is no exception.  Too bad they have been mostly ignored lately as they obviously deserve a lot more credit that what they get.  Great track and also would be a candidate if you nominate this one.

 

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Comsat Angels – “Psychedelic Dungeon” – I am somewhat familiar with this band and own some of their albums, but I am not familiar with this track.  I always love what I hear from them, and this one is no exception.  I wish they could have been more popular or recognized because they are really good.

Friedman & Liebezeit – “182-11” – Now this one I really like.  It’s even better watching them perform it.  I love the way it just kind of floats along and builds in intensity without you really realizing it until it comes to a noisy end.  Either one of your entries would be a great nomination. 

 

Shadowyzard

Ajda Pekkan – “Ben Yanmisim” – This one is a bit too repetitive to keep my interest.  Not really my style.

 

Logan

David Bowie – “Dollar Days” – Great choice and I like the fact you go for the lesser known tracks from the album.  Love the track, but already too familiar with this album to be able to vote on it.

 

Hiram

The Fall – “Mountain Energei” – Not very familiar with this band though I have heard them before back in the day.  This is a pretty good track and it retains the dark and sarcastic feel that I felt the band always had. 

 

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Van Der Graaf Generator – “Mr Sands” and “Manuelle” – Both very good examples of where this band has gone over the years.  They are also different enough from each other to show the various faces of the band.  I am only somewhat familiar with their earlier works, and definitely not familiar with either one of these tracks.  I believe I prefer Mr Sands over Manuelle, but they are both great tracks showing this band never really compromised on their core style.

 

JD

You picked some that I am already too familiar with.  The Peter Gabriel track and the King Crimson track I already know too well since they are high on my favorites lists and both tracks come from albums that are quite amazing.  The Dracula Opera Rock track isn’t really my style and I like the Robert Plant track, but already know it.  That leaves Joe Jacksons “Fool” which I haven’t heard before, and that is the track you nominated which is good.  I am familiar with Joe Jackson and own some of his albums of course, but this is one that I haven’t heard and I really love it.  Nice to hear he is still striving to stay relevant with the styles, but the best part here is where he plays the piano in the instrumental breaks.  I love that style and it is always unique to him.  This track so far has been the most pleasant surprise from all of the posts.  Great stuff!

 

Anders

Tv-2 is something I am totally unfamiliar with, so I listened closely to your selections and read the translations.  You are completely correct in saying the lyrics play a central role and they make all of the difference.  I really loved both the first and second selections.  The first had the best instrumentation and melody where the second had the most poignant lyrics that really touched me, where the 3rd post didn’t really do anything form me.  So I would suggest nominating either the 1st or 2nd.  (especially “En man dog hans hund”), but then I am only one person here.

 

Mathman

Cheap Trick – “The Summer Looks Good on You” – So, I really like Cheap Tricks early music, especially the excellent album “Dream Police”.  I hear a little bit of the title track from that classic album in the instrumental break of this new track, and the guitar solo is pretty good, but the rest of the song doesn’t resonate with me too much as I find it is a bit too poppy. 

Robert Plant – “Carry Fire” – I’m a big fan of Plant, but I haven’t heard this album yet.  It’s a pretty good track, but I hoped it would develop a bit better.  Plant’s soft vocal delivery suits him well in his later years, but I’ve also heard better tracks from him even in his later years.  It’s not bad though, but it doesn’t really stick with me yet.

 

 

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Originally posted by Lewian Lewian wrote:

Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lewian:  Comsat Angels “Psychedelic Dungeon”  Looking forward to this one, with the name.  Definitely a psychedelic, raga-like beginning.  This one has an almost garage-y edge to it, like Love when they were moving from their garage roots into psychedelia.  I like the whole feel to this, it’s a more “traditional,” song than I’m used to hearing from you, or am I just getting more used to your picks?  Either way, yes. 

Thanks for your observations. I do love some straight songs but it's hard for me to explain for what reason something straight clicks and some other thing doesn't. I know that the Comsats from beginning to the end had the hand for making things click for me, although some of their stuff is more twisted. In fact the Glamour album from which this is has two or three even more psychedelic and longer tracks, which was a turn I loved to see them take (their three longest songs are on Glamour, their ninth regular album), but there isn't much from that album on youtube, hardly anyone has it after all. Unhappy
  Yeah, kinda tough when they're not available on YT to share here.  I've done it, but it's not the same, and doesn't get into the playlists for there, which is kind of a nice feature for folks who could use a few more YT listens.  Would love to hear the longer pieces, maybe I'll dig about and see if I can find anything once I get through the poll, there's a lot to take in on this one!
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Mini reviews:

1) LOGAN: This is a song of the past, heir to glam-rock, melodic, mesmeric, enveloping song, and at the same time also evanescent, devoid of consistency, as often happens with Bowie. A melodic song but where the melody wraps around itself, turns in a circle, and then slowly dissolves, after the intervention of the saxophone, in an almost psychedelic final coda. Very evocative and suggestive song. Contender

2) JD: Joe Jackson plays a post-punk song where he mixes his encyclopedic knowledge of music, moving from the Indian sound of the sitar to an interlude of Latin Amerina music (mambo?) and then moving on to a jazz atmosphere guided by the bass. Great display of virtuosity and eclecticism (it also reminds me of Green Day in the singing and the choirs). Of course he is very educated and competent - perhaps too much.

3) HIRAM: Post-punk song, indeed I would almost say revival of the new wave, with a tribal rhythm that has the only flaw of always being the same, and a good rhythmic song, an energetic song that has its effect.

4) RAFF: The video opens with a slightly gothic image, but just a little ;-) Undoubtedly, Blue Oyster Cult have aged remaining true to themselves, still capable of grit, heavy metal guitars, passion, anger.







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Originally posted by Snicolette Snicolette wrote:

Lewian:  Comsat Angels “Psychedelic Dungeon”  Looking forward to this one, with the name.  Definitely a psychedelic, raga-like beginning.  This one has an almost garage-y edge to it, like Love when they were moving from their garage roots into psychedelia.  I like the whole feel to this, it’s a more “traditional,” song than I’m used to hearing from you, or am I just getting more used to your picks?  Either way, yes. 

Thanks for your observations. I do love some straight songs but it's hard for me to explain for what reason something straight clicks and some other thing doesn't. I know that the Comsats from beginning to the end had the hand for making things click for me, although some of their stuff is more twisted. In fact the Glamour album from which this is has two or three even more psychedelic and longer tracks, which was a turn I loved to see them take (their three longest songs are on Glamour, their ninth regular album), but there isn't much from that album on youtube, hardly anyone has it after all. Unhappy
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I did pick, yesterday

Joe Jackson - Fool

Can I write it in the poll already? Smile
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Finishing the songs on page 1.

Lewian (part 2)
Friedman & Liebezeit - "182-11". This one caught my attention from the very start. Very interesting piece, and one that's in the relatively rare time signature of 11/4. Features some electronic work that interacts perfectly with the drumming (by one of my favourite drummers). It should be an obvious contender for my votes.

mathman0806 (part 1)
Cheap Trick "The Summer Looks Good On You" is a straight forward mainstream rock song. It's a bit too "radio friendly" for my taste, but I really like the instrumental section after the second chorus.

TCat
Eric Clapton - "River of Tears" (1998). With the exception of the Unplugged album, I am not very familiar with Clapton's later work (as in: after 1980). I think I have heard a couple of songs from the Pilgrim album, but I can not recall this was among them. The song is a slow ballad. The vocals set in approximately after 2 minutes. It's not generally a sound I would associate with him, but you can sense the bluesiness underneath. Fine song, but not something I go wow about. It is also very long for that type of music (it is not after all a prog track with multiple musical transformations). Big Audio Dynamite - "Rush" (1991) is in a very different mode. Melodically it reminds me of the Rolling Stones' "Get Off of My Cloud", and then a particular Motown song, but I don't remember which one. The sample from "Baba O'Riley" seems a bit random. Later it cites some totally unrelated music before going back to the actual song. Billy Joel - "Light as the Breeze" (1994) is a bluesy ballad with a Hammond organ in the background. I like the discreet guitar work a lot. Fine song, maybe a bit too long.

mathman0806 (part 2)
Robert Plant - "Carry Fire" has a clear Middle Eastern touch to it, espeically due to the solo instrument that plays along with the vocals, as well as the melodic patterns and the constant bass note. Not uninteresting, and I like it much better than the previous Robert Plant song.


Edited by The Anders - April 20 2021 at 10:16
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Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

I did pick, yesterday

Joe Jackson - Fool

Can I write it in the poll already? Smile
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