Brexit: A change of heart??

Edited by Lewian - February 03 2019 at 04:43

I'm really not a big fan of EU and I'm sorry to say i'm living in a country which is a member of the EU. It's a matter of fact... I don't think EU exist year 2035 or 2040.

Love the video TDE  and you know we Brits love a bit of humour, especially dark humour in these dark days.

weeks.. months...

lazland wrote: Take their money, he said. And when they tell you to do something you don't want to do, be more like us. Tell them to f**k off, and don't take a blind bit of notice.

Wonder if Pedro is aware that Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden fame is an ardent Brexiteer.  The funny part is we have Fripp on quote saying the very prospect of Brexit has already made touring in the EU difficult for him.  And yet, if you ask Bruce, Brexit is going to help everyone get rid of the horrendous EU  bureaucracy and all that.  And his fans cheer him on for saying so.

Chaser wrote:   That means it's almost the same as staying fully in the EU, but without any say in the rules.  For that reason, Brexiteers would never accept it, and even a lot of remainers are not keen because it's a worse option than we've got now.   The problem with joining EFTA is that the EFTA countries would have to agree to us joining, and, at the moment, they're not too keen:   https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/dec/07/norwegian-politicians-reject-uks-norway-plus-brexit-plan

Sean Trane wrote: Chaser wrote: Yes, I agree with what you say Blacksword. Pro remainers are trying to get Theresa to rule out no deal. They know that, if she did that, the only options left on the table would be her deal (which is a non starter) or cancelling article 50 and remaining (which would, of course, result in mayhem in the UK) Or else another referendum, but May has ruled it out, and polls show only a minority in the UK actually want another referendum. Whatever MP's say I think a no deal exit looks more likely with every day that passes.   I don't understand why the No Deal worshippers are doing, though...   Why reject a deal (even not e very good one) with the EU, when No Deal at all can only make matters worse for them...   or are they going to declare economic warfare with the EU once they're out of itand that's why they don't want to sign in obeying the rules of the agreement (provided there are any)     Or are the No Dealers simply blind extremists whose faith can only be detrimental to their own cause ?

They're either extremists or mindless optimists who don't understand that if you can't trade in a cost effective manner with another nation (or union of nations) businesses go out of business, and countless numbers of people are made unemployed. The unemployed need paying for, but tax revenues which fund welfare diminish because there are millions fewer tax payers and GDP drops considerably, so you have a serious problem on your hands.

Brexiters generally fall into two other categories (generally speaking) The very wealthy who actually aren't really affected significantly if we remain or leave, but want to leave so they can avoid incoming EU legislation on tax avoidance (probably), and the poor who blame EU immigration for their poverty. The latter feel their position is validated, because the former also want to leave, and the latter believe they are 'on their side' when in reality they couldn't give a monkeys about them, and are solely protecting their own interests.

Too harsh??

Chaser wrote: Ok, so the two votes went as expected. Theresa May's deal got hammered and the motion of no confidence in the government was defeated. ...