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^ More then a reunion with Camp and Sullivan, I would like to see McCarty back in the songwriters chair. If his solo album Through The Fire is any indicator, he's as good a songwriter as the late Dunford.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2019 at 08:44
^ yep
She did mention Camp once on stage this time as one of the songwriters they have had over the years.  She also mentioned Betty Thatcher.  But she didn't mention the Relfs at all.

A reunion with sets by the classic lineup, at least those who are left, and the original lineup (ditto) playing early Renaissance and Illusion songs would have been great, but maybe that can be part of a farewell extravaganza.  I mean, Annie probably can't keep this up much longer and Rave is not a young un either  Embarrassed
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

There have been complaints about leaving out Mother Russia. They could have cut out Ocean Gypsy and Opening Out to make room for it. Oh well. I am very interested in how Mystic and the Muse was orchestrated because it's already so dramatic. Made for the orchestra like Russia or SFAS track. And if Annie did hit that climactic high note on Mystic thus time too, she might just make a record of sorts as the oldest singer to hit a sixth octave note live in concert.


I thought they did Mystic great.  My friend thought the song too cacophonous.
I thought the logical one to leave out in favor of Mother Russia would have been ASFAS given they have played it the last few times and they were already doing 2 orchestral tracks from that album.  But it is wonderful and it's made for the orchestra.

I do think they are at the point now where they need to come out with a new studio album because there isn't much left to do on stage


Annie has mentioned wanting to do a new album often times. Yeah, it's time they do it. If not, maybe arrange a farewell tour and have Camp and Sullivan on stage one last time to sign off.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

ps TBH Running Hard isn't one of my faves.  I was kind of hoping Midas Man was the one they failed to record.  That to me is one of the most chilling songs ever, rich and atmospheric


Yeah, Running Hard isn't one of my favourites either and we have heard it way more often than Midas Man.
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ps TBH Running Hard isn't one of my faves.  I was kind of hoping Midas Man was the one they failed to record.  That to me is one of the most chilling songs ever, rich and atmospheric
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

There have been complaints about leaving out Mother Russia. They could have cut out Ocean Gypsy and Opening Out to make room for it. Oh well. I am very interested in how Mystic and the Muse was orchestrated because it's already so dramatic. Made for the orchestra like Russia or SFAS track. And if Annie did hit that climactic high note on Mystic thus time too, she might just make a record of sorts as the oldest singer to hit a sixth octave note live in concert.

I thought they did Mystic great.  My friend thought the song too cacophonous.
I thought the logical one to leave out in favor of Mother Russia would have been ASFAS given they have played it the last few times and they were already doing 2 orchestral tracks from that album.  But it is wonderful and it's made for the orchestra.

I do think they are at the point now where they need to come out with a new studio album because there isn't much left to do on stage
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There have been complaints about leaving out Mother Russia. They could have cut out Ocean Gypsy and Opening Out to make room for it. Oh well. I am very interested in how Mystic and the Muse was orchestrated because it's already so dramatic. Made for the orchestra like Russia or SFAS track. And if Annie did hit that climactic high note on Mystic thus time too, she might just make a record of sorts as the oldest singer to hit a sixth octave note live in concert.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

The show was fantastic! The orchestra was involved from the first to the last, and much better integrated with the songs than before.  They also changed up the set list dramatically as you will see.  Annie was in fine voice though seemed less effective in the lower registers like on "Opening Out".  But "Day of the Dreamer" was definitely one of the highlights along with "Midas Man".  If there was a big disappointment it was probably in the highly touted special guest Jim McCarty.  He was introduced just prior to "Island" but did not speak at all, and he played acoustic guitar along with Mark Lambert, and he played again on Ashes, but his role was negligible.  I had hoped they would do eith "Spare Some Love" or "On the Frontier", two tracks which I believe he co-wrote.  To make room for other songs, both "prologue" and "Mother Russia" were bumped off the set list.  I didn't mind Prologue not being there but how can they not play "Mother Russia"?  Anyways, here is the list, hopefully in correct sequence

1. Carpet of the Sun
2. Ocean Gypsy
3. Running Hard
4. Midas Man
5. Symphony of Light
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6. Running Hard (again!  They had failed to record it the first time)
7. Opening Out
8. Day of the Dreamer
9. Mystic and the Muse
10. Song for all Seasons
11. Ashes are Burning



Thanks for the review! I guess McCarty was brought in more to honour him, being the 50th anniversary concert series. It's been way too long now.

Well, it was good that they had to redo Running Hard because it didn't get recorded because I read a fan saying they did it much better the second time around.
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The show was fantastic! The orchestra was involved from the first to the last, and much better integrated with the songs than before.  They also changed up the set list dramatically as you will see.  Annie was in fine voice though seemed less effective in the lower registers like on "Opening Out".  But "Day of the Dreamer" was definitely one of the highlights along with "Midas Man".  If there was a big disappointment it was probably in the highly touted special guest Jim McCarty.  He was introduced just prior to "Island" but did not speak at all, and he played acoustic guitar along with Mark Lambert, and he played again on Ashes, but his role was negligible.  I had hoped they would do eith "Spare Some Love" or "On the Frontier", two tracks which I believe he co-wrote.  To make room for other songs, both "prologue" and "Mother Russia" were bumped off the set list.  I didn't mind Prologue not being there but how can they not play "Mother Russia"?  Anyways, here is the list, hopefully in correct sequence

1. Carpet of the Sun
2. Ocean Gypsy
3. Running Hard
4. Midas Man
5. Symphony of Light
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6. Running Hard (again!  They had failed to record it the first time)
7. Opening Out
8. Day of the Dreamer
9. Mystic and the Muse
10. Song for all Seasons
11. Ashes are Burning


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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

They've always been one of my favorite bands. Under-appreciated for sure, but they can play next to any of the great ones and come, if not on top, at least on the same level.  
 
Renaissance are my all-time favourite Prog-Rock band, and for that reason, they'll be the subject of my next song titles thread. Smile
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They've always been one of my favorite bands. Under-appreciated for sure, but they can play next to any of the great ones and come, if not on top, at least on the same level.  

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So how was the Keswick show, Ken? Was getting good reviews on FB and the Keswick shows are rarely ever disappointing.
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

and next Saturday is the concert at the Keswick in Glenside PA with Jim McCarty as special guest and the chamber orchestra.  I only wish it could be an entire weekend comprising the different configurations like the Strawbs 50th was, but it will have to do!


Ah, it's upon us already?  Have a great one!

Thanks!  Have you scheduled your skype chat with Annie?


They have yet to get back to me with possible dates though I 'bought'it. I presume it will be after the shows.

McCarty was there for the New York show, unexpectedly. And they are going to do Day of the Dreamer too.
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

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and next Saturday is the concert at the Keswick in Glenside PA with Jim McCarty as special guest and the chamber orchestra.  I only wish it could be an entire weekend comprising the different configurations like the Strawbs 50th was, but it will have to do!

Ah, it's upon us already?  Have a great one!
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

and next Saturday is the concert at the Keswick in Glenside PA with Jim McCarty as special guest and the chamber orchestra.  I only wish it could be an entire weekend comprising the different configurations like the Strawbs 50th was, but it will have to do!

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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Came across this fantastic evaluation of Betty Thatcher, well worth a read:

Nice to see Betty get some recognition. She was the best artist lyricist ever, far surpassing Peter Sinfeld and a match for Keith Reid. 

Agreed, I too like her work more than Sinfeld as influential as the latter was.
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and next Saturday is the concert at the Keswick in Glenside PA with Jim McCarty as special guest and the chamber orchestra.  I only wish it could be an entire weekend comprising the different configurations like the Strawbs 50th was, but it will have to do!
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thanks for sharing that.  It is beautifully written, much like Thatcher's songs
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Originally posted by rogerthat rogerthat wrote:

Came across this fantastic evaluation of Betty Thatcher, well worth a read:

Nice to see Betty get some recognition. She was the best artist lyricist ever, far surpassing Peter Sinfeld and a match for Keith Reid. 

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Came across this fantastic evaluation of Betty Thatcher, well worth a read:

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