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Man Erg
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 09:19 |
fandango wrote:
^^^ it just seams to me that we have become so celebrity orientated and superficial as a 'soundbite' society that these days you can't be considered as a serious politician unless you have the right physical image.... hell, you can't even be considered capable of reading the news anymore unless you look like Sophie Raworth... (as Anna Ford and Moira Stewart both found to their cost when they were deemed 'over the hill')....
it just annoys me so much, that the media and marketing gurus have conned the public into thinking that they should only take notice of someone in the public eye, if they would either like to be like them, or have sex with them....
I guess that means that Andy Robinson and I should be seeking out a career in radio.... |
Are you saying that you and Andy have 'good faces for radio'?
'...And here's Michael Fish with the weather...'
Welcome back Michael Fish.
Was it just a one off last night that he did the weather forecast on the 6 O'clock news to 'celebrate' the 20th anniversary of the 'Hurricane'? If so,he's a bl**dy good sport.
Edited by Man Erg - October 16 2007 at 09:20
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Jared
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 08:43 |
^^^ it just seams to me that we have become so celebrity orientated and superficial as a 'soundbite' society that these days you can't be considered as a serious politician unless you have the right physical image.... hell, you can't even be considered capable of reading the news anymore unless you look like Sophie Raworth... (as Anna Ford and Moira Stewart both found to their cost when they were deemed 'over the hill')....
it just annoys me so much, that the media and marketing gurus have conned the public into thinking that they should only take notice of someone in the public eye, if they would either like to be like them, or have sex with them....
I guess that means that Andy Robinson and I should be seeking out a career in radio....
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Dean
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 08:31 |
at least we'll avoid the Flash Gordon vs. Ming the Merciless headlines during the next election
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Man Erg
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 07:50 |
'Ming Vase Pushed'
Now fetching a low estimate on the Antiques Roadshow. Michael Aspel was heard to say, Ming was cracked and therefore, worthless.The party that brought it here went away with their tails between their leg(s).
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 07:43 |
He was pushed... or maybe he couldn't stand falling at the next hurdle...
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Jared
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 07:12 |
Blacksword wrote:
Anyway, the problem persists, but it's 'contained' so I shall refrain from ranting for now.. |
Are you sure??
Oh, that's a shame... I enjoy reading one of your Rants...
Would you like to rant about whether Ming Campbell 'fell' or 'pushed'??
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Blacksword
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Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
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Points: 16130
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Posted: October 16 2007 at 06:26 |
chopper wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
^..and here it is!
British Gas!
On Monday morning I discovered that my boiler - less than three years old - had sprung a slow leak (water) from somewhere. This £3000 boiler was installed by BG back in 2004. I called BG and an engineer turned up within the hour! Brilliant, and I'm on a service agreement with them so there was no call out charge. The engineer tightend something then b*ggered off 20 mins later. No worries into work I go. I get home and the bloody thing is leaking again. I call BG, and have to take the next day off waiting for another engineer, who turns up at 1:30pm and after 2.5 hours tightens something and once again, b*ggers off.
Looks ok. Checked this morning, leaking again. They wont come out tomorrow, I'm got meetinmgs all day today, apart from now obviuosly, so I have to wait until Monday.
My problem? Whilst complaing that this will be the third call out, and I'm having to use up days of my annual leave entitlement, the harpy on the other end of the phone is trying to sell me more BG products!! I pointed out that I would be reluctant to buy anything else from BG whilist I remian 'unconfident' about their ability to fix, what look like minor problems, but she persisted 'Mr Robinson, if you upgrade to..blah blah..' so I said 'Are you able to understand my position on this at all? Can you see why I may not want to buy new products at this time' In a cheery voice she responded 'Thankyou for calling British Gas. An engineer will be with you on Monday as requested'
I would be less stressed about this, if this was not my third boiler in 8 years. They are not cheap!
Rant, rant, grumble moan...
Sh!t! Late for meeting... | £3000 for a boiler??? Are you sure Andy? |
Near as damn it, when you include VAT and the charge for the installation. That was back in 2004..
Anyway, the problem persists, but it's 'contained' so I shall refrain from ranting for now..
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Syzygy
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 18:36 |
The Doctor wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
fandango wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Yep. We're working class |
but you told me recently that you didn't work....
would that make you underclass with working class aspirations?? |
Kind of.
I want to enjoy working... at the moment, I cannot find anything I wish to do workwise, that I will enjoy.
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Work sucks! It always sucks. The only job which wouldn't suck would be if someone would pay me to drink beer, watch tv, listen to prog and get laid. I don't think that job exists though damnit. Whoever invented work, should have finished the job. |
I could post a rant of my own, but instead I feel moved to quote Philip Larkin, who put so much better than I could (well, a bit better )
Toads
Why should I let the toad work Squat on my life? Can't I use my wit as a pitchfork And drive the brute off?
Six days of the week it soils With its sickening poison -- Just for paying a few bills! That's out of proportion.
Lots of folk live on their wits: Lecturers, lispers, Losels, loblolly-men, louts -- They don't end as paupers;
Lots of folk live up lanes With fires in a bucket, Eat windfalls and tinned sardines -- They seem to like it.
Their nippers have got bare feet, Their unspeakable wives Are skinny as whippets -- and yet No one actually starves .
Ah, were I courageous enough To shout Stuff your pension ! But I know, all too well, that's the stuff That dreams are made on:
For something sufficiently toad-like Squats in me, too; Its hunkers are heavy as hard luck, And cold as snow,
And will never allow me to blarney My way to getting The fame and the girl and the money All at one sitting.
I don't say, one bodies the other One's spiritual truth; But I do say it's hard to lose either, When you love both.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 17:52 |
There's always time in the music press world of back-stabbing and conniving, for an old soiled adult on the block to become the new de rigueur prog journalist of the 21st Century.
Or maybe not.
I can see myself in 20 years time on one of those programs about music genres on BBC and getting cut off in my prime, just as I start to mention how good and wholesome progressive rock music is... they'll make me look silly. Of course, I'd naturally be dressed unkempt, in a t-shirt with holes in with a chip in my hair.
Us prog journos are "eccentric" after all, we're not allowed to be normal.
Edited by Geck0 - October 15 2007 at 18:01
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Dean
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Joined: May 13 2007
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 17:34 |
The Doctor wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
fandango wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Yep. We're working class |
but you told me recently that you didn't work....
would that make you underclass with working class aspirations?? |
Kind of.
I want to enjoy working... at the moment, I cannot find anything I wish to do workwise, that I will enjoy.
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Work sucks! It always sucks. The only job which wouldn't suck would be if someone would pay me to drink beer, watch tv, listen to prog and get laid. I don't think that job exists though damnit. Whoever invented work, should have finished the job. |
A nice dream but no one has emplyed a prog rock journalist for over 30 years.
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 17:06 |
Geck0 wrote:
fandango wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Yep. We're working class |
but you told me recently that you didn't work....
would that make you underclass with working class aspirations?? |
Kind of.
I want to enjoy working... at the moment, I cannot find anything I wish to do workwise, that I will enjoy.
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Work sucks! It always sucks. The only job which wouldn't suck would be if someone would pay me to drink beer, watch tv, listen to prog and get laid. I don't think that job exists though damnit. Whoever invented work, should have finished the job.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Location: Malaria
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:59 |
fandango wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
Yep. We're working class |
but you told me recently that you didn't work....
would that make you underclass with working class aspirations?? |
Kind of. I want to enjoy working... at the moment, I cannot find anything I wish to do workwise, that I will enjoy.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:59 |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Dean
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:46 |
R o V e R wrote:
Roger Dean is Overrated , sometime,. |
This is true - but he does it so well
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The Doctor
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:42 |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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R o V e R
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:32 |
Roger Dean is Overrated , sometime,.
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Jared
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:31 |
Geck0 wrote:
Yep. We're working class |
but you told me recently that you didn't work....
would that make you underclass with working class aspirations??
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Neil
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 15:07 |
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Location: Malaria
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Posted: October 15 2007 at 09:15 |
Todays rant:
Vauxhall!
I've had to take my Meurglys into the garage to get a valve replaced, as the rear right brake is leaking fluid... I took it in Friday... anyhow, it was supposed to be ready today, but the garage 'phoned up and said they've been having trouble getting a valve and that Vauxhall no longer sell single valves, so you have buy them in pairs and they've changed the design. A single valve normally is around £30... a pair is £130+. Even the garage were surprised! Vauxhall didn't have any either! They've found a pair of them in Northampton, so I'll get the car back tomorrow...
What seemed a simple job has now escalated into something else... why do car manufacturers have to design a modification to an existing part that seems to be fine in the first place?
ARGH! It annoys me. I need it repaired though and the labour cost isn't too much, so I'm going ahead with it. It's not the garages fault in this case.
Edited by Geck0 - October 15 2007 at 09:29
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: October 14 2007 at 11:54 |
Yep. We're working class, with more middle class values.
So we're scum of the earth, basically.
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